Badger, Badger, SNAKE!

Among snakes worldwide, sure, but aren’t they still the most dangerous snake in North America? Not that I’m particularly worried about them even so.

What I got from the Wiki article I linked above is that the mocassin’s venom is less dangerous than rattlesnake venom due to the latter having some neurotoxic properties. Mocassins put on a very impressive show to intimidate but the linked article cites some studies that suggest they may be a little less likely to bite than many believe. They (the snakes) want you to leave them alone more than they want to bite you. My personal experience with them is very limited. I encountered maybe 8-10 of them on various trips to Arkansas and Missouri. They stand thier ground and show the fangs but none came at me. I sure someone will post with the opposite experience :wink:

More snake venom info.

The Mojave Rattlesnake is considered one of, if not the most venomous snakes in the US.

If tropical North America is included the Bushmaster and Fer-de-lance
are much more dangerous, being at least as quick to strike, and possessing
much stronger venom.

Fortunately the Bushmaster is quite rare; I believe the Fer-de-lance
is more common.

There are also numerous Coral Snake species south of the Rio Grande
not occurring north of it; however, that genus tends to be unaggressive.

Thanks. i a extremely unhip, and this is the first I’ve heard of this video.
By the way, when I click the link, it doesn’t go anywhere. I had to look it up on Wikpedia

Look at the URL. There’s a stray quotation mark. Delete it and you’re golden. Or here’s the work done for you.

Honey badger don’t give a shit.

The poison is in his veins and he just passes out. Look at that sleepy fuck.

I know folk knowledge paints the cottonmouth as a vicious snake that will come after you.

I live in Australia, and have done for thirteen years.

I have never seen a snake.

Actually since your weight cubes in relation to your height, a 7’7" man is more likely to weigh double.

bully for you.
do you live in a major metropolitan area?
I see about a dozen or so snakes each summer - mostly brown and red bellied black snakes. I quite like snakes but I wont mess with the poisonous ones

I have been around snakes since i cant remember but never venomous. I keep my distance of those but they are sooooo cute

Just saying it’s a little odd that I live in the outer suburbs of Melbourne, a hop, skip,and a jump away from the countryside, and I know there are supposedly snakes around here somewhere, but they have never crossed my path.

That just goes to show you how sneaky they are. They’re like ninjas that way.

(only half-joking, here)

Back when we were on speaking terms, my idiot next-door neighbor was on crutches for a couple of weeks. Eventually we met for a moment and I asked about the nature of his injury.
He keeps a brush/compost pile about 10 feet from my back yard fence by the pool.
He was putting some clippings on the pile when he was bitten by 3 baby copperheads just emerging from the nest. He didn’t seek medical attention for days, but when his leg swelled up enough to split the skin, he gave in. Dumbass.

Anyway, it pissed me off because he knows we have small children and dogs running around, and it would have been good information to have, but he said nothing for 3 weeks.

I love snakes and wouldn’t have hunted them down or anything, but I damn sure would have kept a sharper eye out for a while. With a pool we get frogs, and therefore snakes on occasion, but still - what a dick.

And that folk knowledge is basically wrong. Snakes like water moccasins have rather dim perceptions of creatures towering six feet above them. Usually they’ll take a defensive stand, opening their mouths and displaying the bright white interior as a warning. “Don’t make me bite you, I’ll ruin your day!” Sometimes you might surprise one and have the misfortune to be between it and its escape destination, but its coming at you isn’t so much an attack as an unfortunate coincidence for both of you. I’ve caught literally hundreds of these snakes, including by swimming in the Everglades in the middle of the night with a head lamp on my head. Not a job for amateurs, but so far I’ve avoided venomous bites.

North American venomous species are all pit vipers (except coral snakes) and none are particularly aggressive toward people even when disturbed. Worldwide though there are a number of species that will go beyond mere defensive biting. Several Australian snakes are quite nasty. The Black Mamba and it’s smaller Green Mamba cousin will both actually attack a human. I’ve handled lots of venomous snakes including King Cobras more than a dozen feet long, but the Black Mamba is the only one that actually scares the crap out of me. Big, powerful, fast as lightning, aggressive as hell, and capable of injecting enormous quantities of one of the most potent venoms on the planet. And prone to delivering multiple bites. A truly fearsome creature.

To the OP, you say you’re sure of the identification but there are several species of harmless water snakes that look an awful lot like moccasins and are commonly mistaken for them. Unless you’re familiar with the subtle differences, I’m sorry to say your fall may not have been necessary.

I got nailed by a baby timber rattlesnake here at home in CT, it was about the size of a pencil. Adorable little thing that accidentally got in the house somehow [I am thinking it was curled up under the bark on a piece of firewood]

Really my fault, but I kept snakes for years and it was just a hair faster than I was and it turned in my hand and got me, but being that young had inadequate venom to do much of anything really - it was about like a wasp sting. I have gotten worse bites from grass snakes to be honest. It was much happier being transferred back to the outside. ALthough I have also killed timbers in the yard because they have been known to kill chickens - chickens will eat younger snakes and every now and again the chickens will lose if the snakes are large enough - and I didn’t want any of my goddaughters getting hit by one accidentally. I know enough to watch myself around wood and brush piles but kids can be absentminded when they are playing.

mrAru did a part of his EMT training with Rob Braithwaite, a snake expert down in Va Beach. Rob brought a lovely selection of snakes to class to show them a bit about snakes.

I am 99% sure I identified it correctly. If I hadn’t been so damned freaked out I would have gotten a picture of it after I got away. I based my identification mainly on it opening it’s mouth at us after I got up and attempted to chase it away from the house, brilliant white inside plus a triangular head. Pretty thick snake as well, much ticker than black racers I have seen. Had I had a shotgun it would have been a dead snake, but I don’t really like killing things and it was too fast for me to try and kill with a shovel.

Personally I think you’re nuts handling venomous snakes, but to each his own. Keep safe and don’t get bit.

The super wide gape displaying the cottony mouth are definitive, so your ID is spot on. Sorry for doubting you. But I’ve seen many people, even otherwise knowledgeable ones, make that mistake. For example, a wildlife officer friend offered to give me a moccasin for educational programs. He had used it in a training class for other officers, and had no further need of it. I went to their regional office to pick it up and was directed to a room where half a dozen officers were drinking coffee and doing paperwork. “Where’s my moccasin?” “There, in that covered bucket.” I pried off the lid, looked inside, then pulled out a big, dark, heavy bodied snake and waved it around. “This one?!” Chairs were overturned, coffee was spilled, and the room emptied. After I got everyone back (and had a good chuckle - actual laughter wouldn’t have been polite) I explained the differences between an actual water moccasin and the big old green water snake they had mistaken for one.

You made a good choice in not reaching for the shovel. I do not object to eliminating venomous snakes around homes if there is no one available who is qualified to perform a live relocation. But as you seem to know, getting that up close and personal with a venomous snake just isn’t a good idea. The snake will be fighting for its life so all bets are off.

Did you know that, in the USA, the vast majority of venomous snakebite victims are male? And the vast majority of bites are to the distal limbs? Messing’ with venomous snakes, whackin’ venomous snakes, and stompin’ venomous snakes get guys in trouble. Maybe it’s a macho thing.