This happens sometimes with young actresses. As skeevy as it is having 16 year old girls get naked on film, the situation really takes a turn for the bizarre when the actress can’t see it in a theater because, essentially, she is too young to see her own body.
What country do these young actresses live in? Because in the US, they’d be able to see it so long as a parent/guardian accompanied them. (Unless it was NC17, but how many movies actually come out as NC17?) And if the parent/guardian won’t let them see it, that’s hardly a fault in the system so much as inconsistent parenting.
Also, are there really a lot of 16 year old girls getting naked on film?
(just for clarity, I understand in the other example the kid saying “fuck” was not in the US and the laws/rules are different there)
I saw an interview with an actress who made that comment. I think it might have been Brooke Shields, despite that being a terrible example. (Pretty Baby had plenty of reasons to keep kids out apart from her underage nudity.)
There’s more than you might think, since actresses start their careers a decade or more before the guys do. (Which largely balances out the fact that women’s careers end sooner too.) Consider Edward Norton, whose first movie role ever (Primal Fear – nice debut, eh?) premiered when he was older than either Scarlett Johansson or Keira Knightley are now, and they’ve been going strong for a decade.
The most famous recent underage nudity was Thora Birch in American Beauty. An even younger Keira Knightley appeared topless in The Hole, coincidentally enough costarring Thora Birch. Come to think of it, maybe the interview I saw was with Keira Knightley. It seems like the kind of thing she’d comment on. (She had barely turned 16 when the movie premiered in theaters. It was in the UK, though, so maybe the context was how uptight the US is by comparison.)
Uh, newsflash: No movies are Real. The kids get upset, not because they think it’s real, but because they emotionally identify with the lead character. That’s the beauty of Art and the craft of Good Storytelling.
Now, if you watch Bambi (aka, the Forest Rat) and all you think of is dinner, then that’s your right. But that doesn’t mean that anyone who’s moved by the story “needs help” or an orientation to the “real world” or any of the other drivel you’re spouting.
I saw Bambi in theaters. The mother being shot didn’t scare me. The fire scene, though, was burnt into my mind, and I had no idea why or where it came from, until I saw it again when I was in college. And I mean, I had nightmares that still used that imagery ten or twenty years later. Not that I had nightmares of the movie, just that if I had a nightmare, that bit found its way in often enough that I still remember it.
I looked it up in IMDB. I saw Bambi when I was somewhere between 11 months and, say, a year and three months old.
Yeah, I was a big wuss at that age. Eh, go figure.
Originally Posted by Susanann
I think if anybody thinks Bambi is scary, they need to get some help.
Its a DEER!!! A wild animal!! (We usually call them : “forest rats” around these parts) …and Bambi was a CARTOON!
Moreover, deer dont live forever, they usually live max out at 5 years or so (assuming that they can even get through their first winter.)
If a “real” deer does not get shot(and thus usually dies quickly), then it will most likely will die slowly and painfully after getting hit by a car, it will starve or get diseased, or it will get eaten (while its still alive) by a bunch of coyotes.
All children should learn about the real world and how the real world is, and where “meat” comes from. Any child who is raised in a fantasy of make-believe “needs help”, and so do his parents who cant face reality.
Folks, Bambi is NOT real.
Drivel?
It is called : “reality”
Children get upset when they are lied to, or when they are not taught about the real world but instead are mistakenly led to believe that their world is fantasy.
A normal healthy responsibly educated child understands where hamburger, hot dogs, steak, KFC, and venison all come from.
Actually it is called story telling.
They may have been cartoon animals but they are a mother and child. They are friends. They are lovers. They are symbols for the world in which we live. That is story telling. It really is a pretty old tradition.
Olivia Whatshername who played Juliet in the Zefferelli (?) version we all watched in school was not permitted to attend the premiere because of her own breasts.
Before written language stories were the method used to enculturate and educate a peoples. Today we are more apt to consider them entertainment but every story we share with a child is an opportunity for teaching.
Suffering or death of creatures which have been anthropomorphosized can serve a healthy purpose in a child’s life.
It serves a child well (may even keep him out of prison) if a parent recognizes the need for empathy development. A surprising number of children develop empathy even if they have cruel or thoughtless parents and stories are often the medium.
Imagine if the first death a child vicariously experiences in his young life is that of a beloved friend or parent. How much better to help him develop a matter-of-fact and accepting outlook towards death before he experiences it first-hand.
I’m in mind of a conversation in the library one day while in line. It involved my gentle grandmother who used to wring the necks of chickens and chop off their heads in preparation for Sunday dinner. And the woman in line behind me with two young boys in tow shot me a look nearly as deadly as my grandma’s axe-hand. I’m assuming that she thought the info her boys had overheard was in some way damaging to them.
Oopsie. Guess I should have a look around before I talk about the reality of my ancestors. But I left twondering if she or the boys had a clue of the horror which resided in those chicken breasts in the freezer moments before the end of their visit to the factory of death.
I tend to think that it isn’t the horrors of life which damage us as much as it is the way we learn to think about them.