Martyrdom is so fucking boring.
And I suppose this doesn’t qualify as an open admission of trolling me, ether? Just checking. That’s giving an answer that reflects the opposite of her true feelings, but done “mostly to annoy” another poster.
PRR, you are not helping your cause here. Hell, you’re making me regret posting what I did. If you want the warning retracted, then this would be a good time to stop “helping”. If you just want to raise some hell…well…whatever floats your boat.
Nah, what I want is some Mod telling me how **Czarcasm **was acting in an official capacity, how he had issued an instruction at all, much less a clear one, and while I’m at it, how DianaG’s admission is not a textbook case of trolling.
Also, of course, a pony.
Thanks for your comment earlier, btw. Thought it big of you to recognize a principle, even if you and I have tangled in the past.
I have to say that I expect a moderator to be explicit when acting as a moderator. If you’re not going to say you’re acting as a mod, at least call out what rule is being violated. I didn’t see either one of those in Czarcasm’s post.
Let me guess: you’re a pet-owner, right?
Here’s how I see this one, and I haven’t heard from the two mods who were involved: either Czarcasm should have made it clear he was moderating if he was acting in an official capacity, and/or Ellen Cherry should have given a warning for being a jerk instead of ignoring mod instructions. Either way, we’d end up with the same result: a warning for pseudotriton ruber ruber for some obnoxious comments that are not excused by “it’s just my opinion.”
pseudotriton ruber ruber, you’ve been here a long time and this is not the first time you’ve been moderated for this kind of behavior. Nobody should need detailed explanation of why your comments about oral sex on pets were jerkish, and even if DianaG’s post counted as trolling (which it doesn’t in my opinion), it wouldn’t be an excuse for yours. You know what the rules are. You’re leading me to the conclusion that you are being rude to other posters intentionally and then trying to nitpick your way out of it when the staff calls you on it. If so, it’s not going to last very long. If that’s not your intention, I think you should take a breather before posting on a topic that gets your goat, and think about how your words might come across to another person. You’re intelligent enough that you can avoid these kinds of misunderstanding if you want to.
Is it Sunday again already?
I am, although I’m also someone who thinks people who talk to their pets like they can understand them are nutty as fruitcakes, so I’m not sure what that tells you.
That you need to enunciate better.
I “burst in”? Where did you get the idea that I need your permission to intervene when a thread in a forum I moderate starts getting out of hand? Your multiple posts in that thread were, in my opinion, inflaming the situation, so I tried to diffuse the situation by suggesting that you move that part that caused you to post over and over again to the pit. No, I didn’t make an official proclamation and decided to take the informal route for the sake of someone who has been posting here for a long time, and for that I apologize-but then again, you used to be able to take a hint without too much prodding.
Speaking not as a moderator at this point, but as someone who has truly enjoyed your posts over the years, I’ve got to ask-what the hell is wrong?
But the warning still stands, right?
If I knew you were moderating, I would have responded differently, most likely. That’s what this ATMB thread is about–I feel like you suckered me into giving you back what you were giving me, as a poster, and then the big reveal: you were wearing your Mod cape the whole time–ha ha ha on me!!
So I made a little fun of **Kyla **, but it was nowhere near a Pit-level mocking–as I said, she asked us to tell her if she was nuts, and I thought she was, and I told her so. I’m amazed that if you felt so strongly that the decorum was getting out of hand, you let Diana troll me as she did, blatantly, openly admitting that she was saying shit she didn’t believe, just to annoy me. You let things get out of hand, IMO, when you (or someone) decided that your post was so obviously an official warning that I needed to be given a hard time for giving you a little backtalk. Far better to ask me to tone it down, no mod warning given, or ask me and **Diana **to get into whatever crap we want to in in the Pit but not to hijack the current thread (**Gfactor **is especially good at doing this in a light-hearted but firm tone.) That probably would have gotten the result you wanted.
So that’s what happened (in that thread). In a larger sense, I’ve found this place to be declining as a community in general over the past few years. Maybe that accounts for my increased rudeness. Or maybe its the change in my meds, I don’t know. Probably I’m just getting old and cranky. I do appreciate the attempt to treat me with civility and kindness towards the end of your post–probably I could apply some of that tone to my own posts.
Where’s Liberal and his checkbook when you need him?
What ?
You can’t afford to remain a charter member ?
When someone threadshits in one of my threads, I typically call them out* on it as soon as I notice it. If they continue argue with me about it I report it and move on. Normally a mod will tell them to knock it off.
Usually something along the lines of "If you don’t like tattoos* that’s fine, go start your own thread, don’t shit all over mine"
**I don’t know what it is about tattoo threads, but for some reason people who don’t like tattoos just can’t seem to keep their opinions to themselves about them.
Well, if she asked on an anonymous board I’d tell her “sure, they do”.
The SDMB is not the place for hugs and kisses.
Nah, it’s a joke referring to when **Liberal **offered to pay PRR money to leave the board (PRR left for awhile, but then came back saying he and Liberal worked it out to where he could come back–but as for whether he got the money or not is something that was never answered).
While I agree that Czarcasm’s response read more like a suggestion than an “official moderator commandment” or whatever… Czarcasm’s response was polite, and pseudotriton ruber ruber’s response was quite rude. Should have been warned for being a jerk, IMO.
Yep, i agree with this. And nor do i think, as some have suggested, that the warning should simply be changed from “Disobeying Mod instructions” to “Threadshitting.” If a mod can’t do their job right the first time, they shouldn’t get a do-over. A simply admonition to stop threadshitting would have been sufficient anyway; it didn’t need a formal warning.
Not only that, but we’ve been told on multiple occasions, by moderators and admins, that they will make very clear when they are acting as moderators, so that there is no confusion. It simply didn’t happen in this case.
That’s not the end of the world; everyone makes mistakes. But Czarcasm’s oversight shouldn’t result in a formal warning for the OP of this thread.
I have to concur with Oakminster though, prr: your ongoing performance in this thread makes you more and more difficult to defend.
This isn’t like a US criminal trial; you don’t get the charges dropped on a technicality.