to disagree with a moderator when he is NOT acting as a moderator, nor is he issuing official warnings.
In this thread, **Czarcasm ** busts in and informs me that my request to have all personal remarks hijacking in the OP belong in a Pit thread should result in MY starting a Pit thread that I have zero interest in starting.
I respond to him telling him that I don’t take requests to start Pit threads unless I’m so inclined–next thing I know, I’ve Ellen Cherry telling me that the next time I ignore a moderator instruction, I will get an official warning. But I also have a PM from Ellen Cherry waiting for me, telling me that I already have gotten an official warning for ignoring an instruction from a mod.
Czarcasm in no way was acting as a Mod. He didn’t say he was acting as a mod, and his “instructions” in no way indicated any actions I was to take, other than an officious and ridiculous order to go start a thread. I wasn’t aware (and still am not) that Mods can order you to start threads of any type nor that you are obliged to follow such orders. If that isn’t an imperative I’m obliged to follow (and how could it possibly be?) then I’m free to refuse to follow it, and to inform Czarcasm that I don’t take orders on starting threads.
If Ellen Cherry tells me that I WILL get a warning if I do something, and I have done nothing except log in between the time she issues that warning and I open my PMs, how did I earn the warning? By doing nothing? By doing nothing in an obnoxious manner?
Listen, I’ll stop posting here any time the atmosphere stinks too badly for me to breathe, but could you folks at least TRY to make a little sense as to when you’re posting as Mods, when you’re just being posters, when you’re issuing official warnings and when you’re just busting chops? Thanks so much.
Czarcasm should have been a little more explicit that he was acting as a Mod in that thread but that it mitigated by the fact that you were being a twat in that thread in the first place. Ellen shouldn’t have spanked you for ignoring a Mod instruction but that is mitigated by your acting like a prick and telling anyone to essentially fuck off when they say, “hey, take the hijacks somewhere else.”
1.) A moderator told you to stop hijacking the thread. That you need him to have a little disclaimer saying that he’s acting as a mod is stupid and earns you a rolleye smiley:
:rolleyes:
2.) Ellen didn’t say that continued mouthing off would earn you a warning, she said that mouthing off has earned you a warning: " Subsequent mouthing off earns you an official warning." Notice that her post is titled “Moderator Warning”.
You’re not required to start a Pit thread if you don’t feel like it; you are required to stop threadshitting. I don’t see what’s so difficult to understand.
In fairness, Czarcasm should have noted that he was acting as a mod. I expect he’s out of practice.
I tend to refrain from suggesting that posters should try to work out whatever issues may be going on in their personal lives, or that they would benefit from some time away from the boards (as part of a more general what-does-it-all-mean personal reflection), because it strikes me as the height of pretension and really very condescending, even when it’s offered with the best of intentions. But… yeah.
I wasn’t threadshitting at all. The OP asked if she was nuts. Was the only acceptable answer, “No, sweethart, you’re fine. Everyone has conversations with their cats”? She asked if she was nuts, in my opinion she was, and that’s what I was trying to steer the conversation back to, instead of my lovable personality. For trying to PREVENT the thread from being hijacked, and suggesting an appropriate place to discuss my cat-hating personality (the Pit), I’m threadshitting? I don’t think so.
pseudotriton ruber ruber, I am issuing you a warning for failure to heed a moderator’s instruction to stop threashitting. [sic]"
There is no way I was instructed to stop threadshitting (which I wasn’t doing anyway)–**Czarcasm **ordered me to start a Pit thread–he said nothing at all about threadshitting, and he wasn’t acting as a moderator anyway. If you people can’t give me an instruction to follow, and can’t be troubled to identify yourself as Moderators when you’re issuing official rulings, then you deserve all the misbehavior you get and then some.
In fairness, I think PRR has a point here. ** Czarcasm** did not indicate that he was acting as a mod, nor did he issue an unambiguous instruction:
PRR responds:
The next mod post is Ellen Cherry’s:
Sorry, but this warning can’t stand. It’s based on a violation of a non-existent moderator instruction. Perhaps it could have been issued on other grounds, but as issued, it’s bogus.
It is not fair for a poster to have to guess whether a mod is acting as a mod or not, and if so, whether an enforceable “instruction” has been given. Those things should be made explicit.
Bad call by Ellen Cherry, and the warning should be retracted.
Nah, if anything the justification should be changed, but jerkish threadshitting of that sort is perfectly fine for drawing a warning. Telling another poster to go fellate a cat is, one might think, somewhat past the bounds of polite behavior.
To start with, I saw nothing to suggest that **Czarcasm ** issued an instruction or indicated a displeasure with PRR’s previous posting.
There certainly was a suggestion to start a pit thread which PRR very impolitely rejected.
There is nothing to suggest that a moderator warning to stop threadshitting had occured.
I thought his language was a little Pitty, but a subsequent poster got no warning for that.
I’m throwing a red flag.
I’m hoping Ellen goes to the booth on this call.
One more point. Anytime I feel one of my threads are getting shitted, should I report it ? Actually, a good number of threads seem to get derailed by threadshitters but up till now I didn’t realize that there might be a rule against it.
Oh, please. Someone doing a dissertation on message board threadshitting would use your posts in that thread as the core of their thesis. Disagreeing with the OP had nothing to do with it: you or anyone could have come in and posted “um, I’ve never done that, it sounds kind of nutty, actually” and no one would have blinked. That’s not what you did. You came in, mocked the OP for talking to her cats, got into a fight with DianaG, reposted your mockery of people who talk to their cats a second time in response to faithfool’s post, then told Czarcasm to fuck off when he suggested you take your show elsewhere.
I think based on your history you have not always been treated perfectly equally by the mods in all cases, but to play wounded innocent in this case is just laughable.
