Even though he is every bit as large as the officer in question? And was possibly belligerent and combative?
I would like to see the whole tape before I would pass judgement on this officer.
Hey, maybe he is a bad guy. But I could not say that on the basis of that snippet of tape alone.
Pay attention, spooje:
He. hit. a. person. who. was. handcuffed.
That. is. legally. and. morally. wrong.
Pay attention yourself. Do you have any evidence for your claim here?
Or should I say do. you. have. any. evidence. for. this. claim?
Yeah, he hit him. Yeah, he shouldn’t of done that. But if this guy had a hold of his nads, it seems pretty understandable.
Like I said, I want to see the rest of that tape. It may put those actions in a different light. Or may not, I don’t know.
I withdraw this.
Yes, I saw it.
Then he shouldn’t be a policeman.
Grownups use the word “testicles” BTW.
Horse manure. If someone grabbed your ‘testicles’, you are gonna strike out. It’s a reaction, and it’s instinctive.
And lighten up with insults, pal.
I had many bike wrecks as a kid, and was kneed in the groin as a child…excuse me, young teen. It hurts, but no more than having your nose pulled or your ear twisted.
Anyway, he apparently lied about hitting the person in his report. He shouldn’t be a policeman. They’re the good guys. If you do wrong, you tell the truth about it.
I was nadvertanly kicked in the groin in a sparring match. I have a videotape of it. I writhed on the ground in agony for a good 5 minutes and was done for the day.
Maybe your nose and ears are more sensitive than mine are. 
So what did they do to the guy who broke the rules and kicked you in the testicles?
He didn’t break the rules. He threw a kick that was supposed to be to my mid-section. He just didn’t get his leg up high enough.
Or, that’s his story, anyway.
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See, that’s why I suggested that you pick one position or the other. Either the man’s groin was attacked, which would elicit the ‘natural’ response of striking out because of the accute pain involved, or the punch was weak.
My personal take on it: I wouldn’t consider what I saw on the tape as a ‘weak’ punch, and I didn’t see the officer in question bending in pain afterwards, either, so I’m not particularly convinced that there was a shot to the groin.
See, if it was a weak shot to the groin, the officer should write it up as a seperate assault and charge the kid (ie not hit). If it was such accute pain that he lost control, hitting at the kid, I cannot figure out why he’d not be dropping to his knees/ground as you state you did.
Wring, IIRC, you are a woman, so I’ll ask this. If someone you did not know were to grap your breast, not enough to send you to the floor in pain, but simply to grab it, would you not instinctively strike out? Would you not consider it an assault on your person?
IF the kid did grab for the jewels, it’s likely he didn’t get a good enough grab to do damage. Wouldn’t matter. He’d still be resisting arrest and attempting to do damage. The guy couldn’t deliver a ‘shot’, as you put it. But he could still inflict pain if got a good enough grasp, and that’s just not OK. When the cops put the cuffs on ya, you are supposed to stop. When you don’t stop after the cuffs are on (and it happens, you see it on ‘COPS’ and other FOX shows all the time), then you get hit.
Frankly, that’s not the kind of thing that makes into police reports, IMO. They would simply put that the suspect resisted arrest.
As far as what did or did not happen, I don’t know.
If this kid was stopped for no reason, put up no struggle, cooperated as he is supposed to do, then yes, the officer was indeed wrong and should be kicked off the force immediately.
However, if the kid was stopped for valid reason, was verbally and physically combative, and was still trying to grab the officers package with his hands cuffed behind his back…then I don’t see a crime here. I really don’t have all the info to make a call either way.
But they didn’t.
I’m tired of wasting my breath on you.
The idea that the police shouldn’t hit someone that is handcuffed is ridiculous.
In the 60s, when I was 16, and drunk, I hit a cop when he tried to arrest me and a group of my friends. This happened just as a couple of backup squad cars arrived. The cop had to go to the emergency room for his nose.
And me and the rest of the cops continued the altercation, and after a minute or so they got me handcuffed and pressed to the ground. But I didn’t stop fighting even then, so I continued to be struck with batons and kicked and punched while handcuffed.
This was in front of several hundred witnesses. Everybody, including me when I sobered up, said I got just what I deserved. In fact, I was lucky I didn’t get shot. For the next week I could hardly move with all the bruises.
Handcuffs don’t put an end to all struggle. There’s lots you can do. The cops are certainly within their rights to bring a suspect under complete control.
spooje - the answer is: Yes, I have been groped/assaulted, and no, I didn’t lash out. When operating a correction center, and was assaulted by an inmate there, I did not hit back, I wrote the report and she was arrested. (which if you’ll review is what I suggested that the officer’s obligation was).
In private life, no, I don’t generally hit back - that can get you an assault charge. Some one grabbing at me may get any of the following - dirty look and a comment drawing attention to their action “Gee, why do you think you have the right to touch me?” ; their hand taken away from my body; their hand shoved away from my body, criminal charges filed etc.