Being bullied by an attorney

Help!! I own a small family owned business in Phoenix, AZ.

Recently, a new client of mine who is also a local attorney, ran up over $3,000 in services from my business then outright refused to pay. FYI yes, we did a great job for this client and performed all services in good faith. After not being paid on our invoice for 2 months, we sent several very polite letters requesting payment for our services but were ignored. I know it’s not a ton of money, but this is what feeds my children so naturally I went about trying to collect.

When we finally threatened to send them to collections we received a letter back from them complete with fabricated accusations about how we didn’t do a good job, were negligent, etc. They piled on a heap of false claims leading to the ultimate punchline, they claim we owe them $240,000 for damages as a result of our services.

Everything in the letter is a complete lie and we have detailed documentation via email and other materials that can completely prove as much. We would destroy them in court on merits. Our attorney read their letter and says it looks like a template they use often, suspecting that this attorney does this to companies all the time. Hires out services, doesn’t pay, and then when threatened by a small company like mine for payment bullies them back with obscene legal threats until they just go away empty handed.

Our attorney says there’s absolutely no way they would win a dime in court based on the trumped up nonsense they put into the accusation letter against us. However, they trumped up a claim of damages against us to a high amount so that, if we sue for what we’re owed, they could pull us into Superior Court. Unlike small claims, in Superior Court we cannot defend ourselves we a forced to retain counsel. A case like this could cost us $20,000 or more to defend.

So that’s the racket. As put so eloquently by my attorney, “they have free legal council, you don’t”. This attorney abuses local vendors, steals services from them, and when they try to collect bullies them to go away - in essence stealing from them. And this isn’t the first time, I know of at least one other company in the last year that this attorney has done this to. That company just went away rather than try to fight.

So my friends here is the question, should I:

  1. Send them to collections and wait for them to then file a suit in Superior Court, costing me tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees and countless hours of time to prepare a defense?

  2. Walk away and eat the $3,000 hoping that they blow off and drop everything?

There’s also (going nuclear) option #3 that I have considered which involves:
[ul]
[li]Filing a suit for my $3,000[/li][li]Contacting local news outlets to see who wants to pick up my story[/li][li]Filing a complaint with the State Bar[/li][li]Seeing if I can convince one of their competitors to give me pro bono representation for the case just for the satisfaction[/li][li]Contacting the BBB[/li][li]What else???[/li][/ul]

Thoughts?

How many plantiffs do you need for a class action?

I am not a lawyer, but if you are sure that your work was satisfactory, then your suit could include payment of the $20,000 in attorney’s fees and your time to prepare the case.

[anecdote]
My wife owns a small business and was confronted with an attorney who wouldn’t pay. She took him to court. The judge started off sounding very chummy (‘how are the kids?’, etc.) with the attorney, but after my wife presented her case, found against him and ordered him to pay…
[/anecdote]

What about complaining to the bar?

This isn’t meant to be snarky, but if you have a lawyer, why are you asking the dope? Usually from what I have seen, the actual lawyers on the board tend not to appear in these threads and everyone else ends up saying, “this is just my opinion . . . you really should contact a lawyer.”

Ask your attorney if you can do a civil rico suit in your jurisdiction and if knows a lawyer who would do it with you advancing just the costs. If you can find a few other people he has done this to, it would be a great case. Also, consult the local district attorney’s office and see if they are interested.

Instead of complaining to the Bar, there’s also going to the bar - sometimes that’s your most enjoyable option.

Here’s information about civil RICO suits (since I’d never heard of such a thing):

http://www.tollefsenlaw.com/answers/The-Law/Fraud-Law/RICO/RICO-Start.asp

I’m not a lawyer, so I’ve no opinion on whether it seems applicable.

Just send him to collections, like you would anyone else. Seems like the type that likes to see what he can get away with. Once you ding his credit, he will be more willing to talk.

I doubt the State Bar will do much to him over a letter. But a personal, frivolous case in Superior Court might get them interested. And he knows this.

That was one of my questions to our attorney, and he told us that repayment of attorney’s fees is entirely up to the judge. The judge may award all of them, or only part of them. What I’m concerned about is a bill of $20,000 from our attorney and the judge only awarding a portion of them back to us.

Our lawyer advises us to drop the matter and hope she goes away. While that’s probably the smartest thing to do, naturally I’m pretty pissed off about someone stealing $3,000 from me. I’m just searching for creative alternatives.

Well, if your attorney thinks you have a good chance at winning, proceed with the lawsuit.

Been there, done that. Trust me. :slight_smile:

Brilliant, I really like the way you think.

Since this is a real life legal question, we prefer it in IMHO rather than General Questions. Moved.

samclem, moderator

If this happens, and you end up owing your attorney money, then don’t pay him. If he sends you a notice, then threaten to sue him for $240,000.

(kidding)

AKA “Calling his bluff”

I had an attorney stop payment on a check once. He claimed we had damaged his car on a previous visit (3 years previous with no complaint after that visit)
I told him I was taking him to small claims court under California law which allows me to collect up to $1500 in damages above the cost of the check and fees.
He got all huffy and threatening so I wound up hanging up on him.
I filed and spent the extra $40 to have the marshals serve him at his office (yeah I can be a real asshole when you fuck with me)
One of his office mates called me up very nicely and wanted to settle for part of the money, I said no.
The day before the court date, his office mate called again and I held my ground, and mentioned that I had heard that Judges really don’t like attorneys bouncing checks.
That caused him to cave, they messengered over a check from the trust account that day.
My advice, go to collections.

If you’re in the mood to call his bluff, I wouldn’t put him in collections. I’d sue him in small claims for breach of contract. His countersuit for zillions will be foreclosed since the maximum small claims suit in Maricopa County is $3500, and the forum is set up to be friendly to OP. They offer tons of information to walk you through the process. The fact that the guy is a lawyer may even be a disadvantage in this forum.

Small Claims of Maricopa County:

ETA: Rick’s experience is instructive as to how this might play out to OP’s benefit.

I am not your lawyer. I am not advising you to do this.

Google to see if there are any similar complaints about this firm posted on the web, and if you find any, contact them. Consider posting on facebook. Find out what other services the guy uses but not on a regular basis and contacting them.

I wouldn’t want to let them get away with it. If you did, they might just “recommend” you to other scum-sucking bottom dwellers. Are you just going to walk away from anyone who refuses to pay and offers a countersuit? Or are you going to never provide services to law firms? What’s the long term play here?

And yeah: small claims court. Make sure you have all your ducks in a row (have your lawyer help with the duck-lining-up; it’s worth the fees.)