Belgium malimous dogs

gonna get a Belgium malimous any one help out?

Do you mean a Belgian Malinois?

What do you need help with?

Don’t have one, but a K9 officer I know says they are German Shepards on steroids.

You might open a gofundme for the food required.

Also please read the temperament section of the wiki article. If you can’t keep up - back away from owning this dog. It will be a lot of effort on your part over the life of the dog.

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So, they’re the Belgian horse of German Shepherds?

Since the OP is looking for help, let’s move this to IMHO.

Colibri
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Cairo of Abbotobad was a Belgian Malinois, I believe.

If you can’t spell it, can’t form a simple sentence, and can’t be arsed to write out a coherent post on what kinds of things you need help with, you do NOT need this breed of dog. Try starting out with a stuffed animal and work your way up.

Kinda the opposite. They are a bit lighter the GSD, but about the same height. Being lighter means they don’t have as many hip, back and joint problems that the GSD suffers. They are coming on as a replacement for the heavier guys, one factor is they have a longer service life. They are a little more active than most dogs, and can climb over things and into places other dogs can’t.

thank you

More like GSDs on crack. High energy, high maintenance, and a lot of fun if you have the energy to keep up or a complete nightmare if you’re not up to the challenge of living with a genuine working dog that needs to work and train. Speaking from experience.

There are buckets of them turning up in shelters and rescues. Pretty sure the Disney movie Max as well as being the dog involved in the Bin Laden takedown has boosted their popularity. Cue back yard breeders and puppy millers to start churning out pups with sketchy temperaments and health issues.

^ Plus, THEY know they’re smarter than you and some days they’ll convince you of it.

going to look at my email from an instate seller. but home security, at my age 60 a big factor.

Please, please, please, please do not get a Malinois as home security. Unless you’re an extremely fit 60 yo who can give the dog tons of exercise and mental stimulation, you will both be miserable. Seriously, you will end up with a neurotic, unadoptable dog that you are physically incapable of handing.

Please read bobkitty’s response again and again, smee goan. It is completely accurate. These are NOT dogs for amateurs. If you need home security, get a monitored security system. It will be cheaper and safer for you in long run and much, much better for the dog.

Also, why an “instate seller” when there are breed-specific Belgian Malinois rescues, not to mention plenty of these dogs in general rescues and shelters?

Here’s my sister’s story:

A little background. My sister has been into dogs since she was little. She was always more than just a casual owner. She did obedience classes with them from the time she had her first dog (a German Shepherd). When she got older she got into more serious things like schutzhund training with her Rottweiler. She also started breeding Tibetan Spaniels because she loved the breed so much. She was very much an animal lover, but well aware of the practical realities of animal husbandry. More than once she had litters in which puppies did not survive. Also litters where pups were born with such serious (but not visible) birth defects that she had to have them put down as it was the only practical choice. She also did NOT breed to make money, she knew most often you’d be lucky to break even.

Anyway, after much research she decided to own a Malinois. She had had very positive experiences with many aggressive breeds such as German Shepherds, Rottweilers, and Chow Chows. She found a reputable breeder more than a state away and drove overnight to purchase from them. I forget the exact amount but it was probably around $700. The dog she got was perfectly healthy and happy with her. Also very adapt at being trained. However, and my sister knew this going in, these dogs are fiercely loyal and genetically aggressive. She lived out in the country where the nearest neighbor was several hundred yards away.

Long story short(-ish), after owning him for about a year she realized that although he was fine with her and her boyfriend, if he ever got loose (and he tried to) it was quite likely, almost a certainty in fact, that he would at the very least seriously maim someone, and if it were a child probably kill them. And she realized that she would never be able to fully train him out of this behavior, and that it would always be a huge risk to keep him. Besides the physical threat he posed to others she knew she would also likely get sued into poverty over any potential attack.

After much soul searching she decided that the only sensible thing to do was to have him put down. She absolutely loved him as much as any of her pets, and he was perfectly healthy. I cannot begin to fathom how difficult this had to be for someone like her to do, but she did it. :frowning:

Moral of the story, well, I think you can guess…

If you want home security, any dog that barks will do. Pick a nice one from a shelter.

Why a Malinois? What do you plan to do with the pup/dog when you get it home. Do you have training plans in place, or are you just counting on the dog to magically become a personal protection dog and home security? How do you plan to exercise your high energy Malinois?

I have a story similar to Hail Ant’s, but with a happier ending. I did a transport for a 12 week old Malinois puppy that was being surrendered. I picked up a nice little pup that the family was way over their heads with. He had been sold to them by someone who didn’t think he had what it took to be a SAR dog and they thought they were getting a nice, active family pet, like the German Shepherds the mom has grown up with. They got a typical bitey, drivey Malinois and were being advised by a few people that he was, at that young age, dangerously aggressive and should be euthanized. :eek:

Dropped him off with a women I knew from dog training, and he ended up as a working police dog. Super pup, stable, confident, but just a Malinois, not a famiy pet.

No reputable breeder will sell you a good dog if you don’t have experience or a plan in place. Breeders who are just looking to make a few bucks will happily sell you a pup. Buyer beware.

My sister got a Malinois rescue dog. Someone had tried to “train” her with physical force. For the first several months, she wouldn’t come in the house, and hid from men. Ultimately, my sister decided that she needed a dog with fewer issues to work through, and my parents took her.

She is very smart. Picks up new tricks quickly (usually one training session). Understands that different people like to be greeted in different ways. She’ll sit next to my husband when he comes through the door, and wait to be petted. She jumps around my mom. She’s somewhere in the middle with me.

She also has incredible prey drive. Chases cats, squirrels, whatever. Training her to walk on lead was sometimes a challenge because of this.

In summary, a high energy, very smart dog. If you can’t keep your new Malinois busy, it will find ways to keep itself entertained and you might not always like them. (My mom’s dog once “killed” a down pillow. Feathers everywhere.)