nah,faith isn’t a work.
A work would be thinking tithing always will get you points towards heaven,or I’ll do this so God will approve.
We all mess up,like children.
Like a parent(hopefully)God always forgives.
I have faith the sun will come out tomorrow(not out-it won’t here,but be in its proper place.
I have faith God will save whom He will save,not upto me.
I can only pray.
Anyone else here,or is it just me and Dio?
I gotta go to bed soon.
Lynn?..
Let’s save this for another day. It’s Christmas Eve and I have to put “Santa’s” presents under the tree for my daughter.
Have a pleasant and peaceful Christmas. 
Okay.Willcheck tomorrow eve.
BTW,I always told my son there is no Santa.
Didn’t want to lie to him.
He said he preferrred it that way.He’s almost 11.
Merry Xmas!
Happy Hanukah
Good Solstice
Felice Navidad
Happy Santanalia
You are confusing the Bible with God.
God did not write the Bible, man did.
God is love. Perhaps when you understand this simple fact it will be easier for you to understand the position of others.
Love
God is also Just.
When you understand this,perhaps you will see where we are coming from.
This argument only works if one accepts the Christian paradigm as being objectively true. Otherwise, Christianity has no better a philosophical foundation than any other religion.
Why would an all powerful, all knowing G-d come up with a plan that by virtue of what faith and what country you were born into would determine whether or not you go to heaven? Why would he have a plan that made it virtuously impossible for most of the world to go to heaven? Nobody is saying that you shouldn’t believe in Jesus. Just consider that possibly we got some wrong ideas about what he was there for. He lived his life as an example and didn’t turn his back on anyone needing help. The New Testament was written by men, struggling to make their religion somehow superior to other religions. G-d did not write the New Testament. Knowing Jesus is not your one way ticket to heaven. Living and loving each other as he did by example is all that’s required. How can you think he loves Jews, Muslims or any other race or religion less than Christians?
God is only love. God’s law of love: “Ye will reap what ye sow” is just. Perfect justice for everyone.
Love
I’m not confused about it at all. The Author of the Bible is God, penned through the hands of men guided by the Holy Spirit. And it teaches that there is no other plan of salvation or way to the Father but through Christ. Not Buddha, not Muhammad, not through anyone but Christ. See Acts 4:12 and 1 Timothy 2:5
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Mark 16:15-16
Choose who you want to believe, Jesus or Lekatt. If you just want to go by Jesus’ words, Lekatt, you have it from His own lips that he that believeth not shall be damned. Everyone is not safe and secure as you claim and all aren’t going to heaven. The Bible says so. Who should we believe, you or God? If everyone was automatically safe and secure and saved as you keep claiming, it would be totally unnecessary for Jesus to tell His followers to go to all the world and preach the gospel which is the good news that Jesus died on the cross for our sins and by believing and trusting in Him, we have eternal life. Missionaries have given their lives to go to other countries to share the life saving gospel of Jesus Christ with those who’ve never heard in fulfillment of the Great Commission given by Jesus to his disciples. Near death experiences aren’t the final authority on spiritual truth, God is, and what He says in His word doesn’t match what you’re saying, period. And yes, it IS His Word regardless of what you say. 2 Timothy 3:16-17, 2 Peter 1:20-21
God says that His word shall stand forever.
And by the way, Lekatt, God isn’t just love; read the whole Bible and find out about other aspects of His nature. It’s true He is a God of love which is proven abundantly at the cross of Calvary but Scripture reveals Him as a God of wrath also. Once again, I’m aware you take your authority from what was revealed in an nde, not what the word of God teaches. I stand on the fact that some nde’s can be and are deceptive in nature. If their messages are different from the truth of God revealed in His word, they are wrong, end of story.
http://www.dzinemaster.com/guysworld/studyofgod.html
http://www.allanturner.com/love.html
Peace.
Its not true.
Thanks to Jesus, I am forgiven and DON’T have to reap what I deserve.
Mercy.
Grace.
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Why does sin have to be washed away at all? Why can’t God just forgive anyone he wants?**
As vanilla says, ask God. Sins need to be washed away because God says they do.
Heb 9:22
And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
Perhaps this will help clarify for you a little:
This is the worst dogma of Christianity.
All you have to do is say you believe in Jesus and not only are your sins forgiven, but anything you may do after that is also forgiven.
I used to wonder why Christians seemed to me to be less moral than others.
Sorry, it doesn’t work that way, you will reap what you sow as everyone else does. It don’t matter what you believe, what matters is what you do. Please be kind and forgiving to others, don’t be fooled by dogma conceived of men.
Love
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*Originally posted by lynn73 *
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God sheds the blood of no one, how barbaric. Reminds me of the ancient human sacrifices. People have been putting words into God’s mouth for centuries, with the outcome favorable to them. That is the reason they do it, of course.
God is love, now, in the past, and eternally.
Man in ignorance treats God as they would a puppet. Pulling His strings to suit themselves. It just don’t work that way.
God has only one child, and we are it. Learn to share your love with all beings and you will understand.
Love
Christians SEEM less moralto you?
Care toexplain?
Yes,it DOES work that way, thats what God says,but feelf reee to disregard anything God says.
What did the centurion say “Believe and thou shalt be saved?”
The BibleIS God’s word.Don’t believe it?
fine,make up whatever ideas you want and call them "christianity"but it won’t be.
thanks for your “contribution”.
Truth,
vanilla
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This is not just about you, vanilla. You seem like a gentle spirit and wish no one any harm. But you speak harmful lies. You drive people away from G-d and spread pain throughout the world. There are so many times in my life that I had to listen to a “Christian” speak, at times dispassionately, about this race or this religion or this person standing in front of them going to HELL because they don’t “KNOW JESUS”. You take one little part of the Bible and turn it into some sort of cult worship. Everything anyone knows, believes, reads, understands about G-d is worth nothing in your opinion because of that one event in the Bible. You are cruel to people when you smugly tell them “accept Jesus or die”. You make a mockery of G-d. The idea of ONE person going to hell should cause you immense pain. It does me.
Tell you what. If it is the way you say it is, I will barter with G-d. I will convince him of my genuine sorrow for the loss of such a wonderful people and I will beg him to damn my soul in return for saving the Jews, because I know for a fact Jesus Christ is not their savior. I would do this and G-d knows I would. I’m sure I can get other people to give up their spot in heaven so hundreds of thousands of Muslims will not be doomed. And another one for the Budhists. Please provide a list of races and religions that require a sacrifice and I am sure there are other people who would actually give up their life, their chance and lovingly save hundreds of thousands in their place. These people exist. Their devotion to G-d and man is selfless. How could I love G-d as much as I do and not love who he loves? How could I love who he loves and have one moment’s peace if their souls were doomed. You probably think I’m being blaphemous or mocking, but I am not. G-d knows what’s in my heart. That’s how he will judge me. I was a Christian for forty years and I am convicted beyond a doubt that Christian’s got the message wrong. The Word was love.
I don’t have a strong opinion of what actually causes NDE’s, but their affect on a person is undeniable. I believe that some people need to actually die in order to realize what an amazing gift of life their soul actually is. So, although some of Lekatt’s ideas and thoughts seem strange to me, I understand why he came to many of his conclusions. None of us have any way to truly interpret what eternal life is and even the Bible is not clear on it. What I am sure of is that I don’t need to worry about the details or think of it as a reward that has somehow been paid for by someone else. I don’t think I will be bored, because I have been given the gift of so many thoughts and experiences and also the mind that G-d gave me has an unlimited potential for self-amusement. I don’t need to put my trust in the Bible or Lekatt or any other source for details on my afterlife. I trust G-d to know what is necessary for me. In this life, I can never do enough, or be good enough, to actually deserve heaven. But I have enough faith and love, which in the end will make up for my other short-comings. Lynn, your prayers for other people will go unheard until you gain your own unselfish understanding, compassion and love for them.
Do you reject even religious creation type theories?
In addition, other then incredulousness, would believing in a creation type theory change your faith? Or is it just not a faith issue what-so-ever, you just fail to see how mankind could know?
I’m still curious :D.
I speak harmful lies.
Cite?
I tellpeople that?Smugly, even?
Show me when I did that.
You know for a FACT Jesus is not their savior.
Well, lets see those FACTS.
The important part of this quote is the phrase “by the law”. Paul’s point has always been that Law has been supplanted by Grace - the price of blood is no longer required, as God has fulfilled it himself. God did not merely send his son as a sacrifice, God became himself the sacrifice. Jesus is not separate from God.
Paul is saying that the Law requires blood, but God requires something different. Since man cannot seem to let go of the legalism of blood sacrifice, God provides the ultimate sacrifice, putting to an end forever the requirement for sacrifice.