It could work but it may just be cheaper to fund security to the level the govt asked for in the first place rather than play party politics with it.
…But of course, that’s not what he said, and this kind of dishonesty makes me think you’re the kind of person who jumped on “you didn’t build that” and ran with it.
Yes, a coordinated terrorist attack on an embassy was a “total intelligence failure”… Right. That makes an awful lot of sense.
Republicans are so damned projecty they ought to run Cinemark.
Yeah, that’s why the Democrats demanded that heads must roll every time Americans died when embassies were attacked during the Bush administration.
Oh … wait … no they didn’t.
There were lots of attacks on embassies when Bush was president and nobody made a big deal out of it. It was assumed that such things will happen from time to time in the world we live in. It’s only a big deal now because Republicans are desperate to find something to attack Obama with with.
Yeah, but how many of those did W watch live on his big-screen IMAX situation room theater with buttered popcorn and his thumb on the big red “STAND DOWN” button? None, I’d venture to guess.
And what was the name of the ambassador that was murdered during one of these attacks while Bush was in office??
I have no idea what sort of a point you think you’re scoring but 30 people died in attacks on embassies and consulates during Bush’s first term and 28 in his second term. I don’t know what their various jobs were but I do know that the loss of a life is a terrible and tragic thing whether they are an ambassador or not and I currently have a very low opinion of you as a debater and as a person, right now.
The CIA kinda confirmed that this didn’t actually happen.
Be fair, at least part of that post was accurate:
See, JQ? Other people can quote out of context, too.
You don’t say.
(you may blame Poe, if you like, but I was being bitterly sarcastic)
This.
JQPublic, it feels like you’re carefully tailoring your outrage so that it only applies to what happened in Benghazi. You don’t care if our embassies are regularly getting attacked. You don’t care if our diplomats and our security forces are getting killed. But if our ambassador is unlucky enough to get swept up in one of these attacks … suddenly, it’s a scandal!
Ding ding ding. Nailed it.
According to the moronic drivel coming from Facebook, this is exactly what the right wing echo chamber thinks Obama was doing. Let me see if I can channel teh stupid… “He was watching the whole thing in real time! THERE WAS A DRONE OVERHEAD!!!11 He told the military to stand down! Impeach!! Murderer!!!”
And once the ambassader was dead, Obama downed a shot of tequila and gave Biden a high five.
Ok, that last part was hyperbole.
Because IT WAS A FISTBUMP!
Obama does tequila shooters? The guy who’s wife won’t let him smoke in the house? Sure. You bet.
I’d be happy if somebody would stick Lindsey Graham’s dick in McCain’s mouth, so they’d both shut the fuck up for awhile. War hero, my ass. War heroes don’t whine like little bitches four years after they lose the election. And while we’re at it JMcC, accusing Susan Rice of having little experience is rich, coming from the ass-clown who chose Sarah Palin. Fuck you, you senile, bitter old fuck.
This is so unfair to Senator McCain. As a war hero, he is entitled to get the first blow job.
Do you suppose that the “Watergate-style” Senate inquiry into Bengazi can get very far? After these Senators are in the minority party, aren’t they? Can’t Harry Reid schedule any such hearing (as if he would approve it at all) to begin with establishing exactly what standards the senior senator from Arizona has established for the security credentials of female appointees for high-level positions? I’d like to hear Chefguy’s senate testimony on this important subject.
I thought this was a thread about the Benghazi attack. If the question was “should it be a scandal that civilians at our embassies around the world are getting killed on a regular basis?” My answer would yes. If we can’t protect them they shouldn’t be there.
And Inner Stickler did you read the original question? Are we now changing the argument once again and now it’s about who had the most casualties under their command? And are we going to include women and children in those totals or just males of fighting age?
So what are we debating, Benghazi, or are we done with that and now we get to end the argument with the stand by line “bush was worse”?
It isn’t limited to Bush, numbnuts. He’s just a handy example that you might remember. EVERY President in EVERY administration puts diplomats in harm’s way. Some of them actually get killed. It is YOUR job here, that you have zero tools to do, to prove that Obama did something different from Bush and EVERY OTHER FUCKING PRESIDENT IN HISTORY in the Benghazi attack that facilitated Ambassador Stevens’ death. Without that evidence, of which I remind you YOU HAVE NONE, you are invited to return to this thread and have your ass kicked in, over and over again. My only regret is that you have but one ass to get kicked in, and I have only one foot to do the kicking.
Yeah, which asshole brought Republican administrations into this thread?
Oh yeah, it was you. You’re the asshole. You pulled the tired bullshit hypothetical charge that if this happened under a Republican admin, we would be outraged.
Only it did, and we weren’t .
You’re not… good at this arguing thing, are you? Not sure about the thinking clearly thing either.
Here’s the reality; please try to pay attention for once. I worked for and with the US Department of State for about 12 years. During that time I visited embassies and consulates in some 20 countries, visited the homes of many diplomats, and was actually assigned to four different diplomatic missions in both Europe and Africa.
That’s the background for the following: Diplomats are ALWAYS at risk, and they are seldom adequately protected. You are safest when you are behind the hardline at a major facility in a place like Cairo, which was built to all the best blast standards, but most embassies in the third world are just local buildings that aren’t all that well constructed. The embassy in Tripoli is a prime example of a place that is an embassy in name only, and is in some danger of falling down in a strong breeze. I can’t imagine how poor the consulate in Benghazi is.
When at home or on the street, employees are exposed to whomever would like to take a shot at the title. The miracle is that more diplomats are not killed. While my two residences in Africa had walls and gates and a local guard, it was for show. The guard wasn’t armed, and would likely have run away in the event of an attack. The walls wouldn’t have kept out a determined 10-year old.
So I would ask you: how exactly would you go about defending diplomats posted overseas? Pick your typical post of perhaps 50 Americans and their families, living in houses scattered all over the city, and enlighten me with your tactical brilliance.