For homicide this is the case. See figure 19. PDF!: Home | Bureau of Justice Statistics
Article on poverty and crime in Appalachia: http://theweek.com/article/index/255505/appalachia-the-big-white-ghetto
Seems that the biggest criminal activities are drugs and scamming the government. People aren’t getting knifed or shot on the street.
Maybe the black/white comparison is the wrong one - maybe the real difference between “the hood” and the hollows of Appalachia is actually an urban/rural distinction. Black poverty in the US is overwhelmingly urban. White poverty in the US is overwhelmingly rural.
If you find yourself in a holler where you hear " you ain’t from around here, are you?" you might think differently. As a native of Appalachia, I’ve seen plenty of violent crime. As a resident of the DC area, I can say that the dangerous parts of PG County tend to be next to the dangerous parts of DC.
I don’t have particular knowledge, but all I can say is that A) I know that Plainfield, NJ is largely black, and B) most of New Jersey is very safe and low crime. Crime rates are probably bumped up by ne’er do well gang members, which are everywhere to some extent. Basically, even in affordable, small NJ cities, you’re completely safe 24/7 unless you REALLY test your luck (like, walk around certain bad parts of town for hours on end until you evevnutally get mugged… maybe)
On top of that, culturally, there are tons of black people who are, in certain ways culturally not “black”. That is college-educated, often “white-acting”. The northeast is freezing in winter, and highly competitive. You can’t be a f!*# up around here, or you’ll freeze to death, and college degrees are over-appreciated/required. So there are very few ne’er-do-wells, relatively speaking
I heard a motivational speaker once who talked about his experiences growing up as a farmboy in Kansas and how he was curious as to whether or not there really was such a thing as urban violent crime. So he went and “hung out” downtown in Topeka or Wichita late at night for hours and hours until he finally found some trouble. But the point really is that he had to go out looking for trouble. If he had just been in the city normally he would have had no trouble at all.
The Atlanta metropolitan area has a population of 5.3 million. The Norfolk-Virginia Beach metropolitan area has a population of 1.7 million. While the difference is less it would seem to make more sense to compare metropolitan areas rather than that of the cities themselves.
Well, okay then.
So your point is that in areas where black people aren’t “f!*# ups,” that doesn’t count, because then they don’t count as black?
True, that’s a factor of course. But, as I say, given the history there’s no doubt many black-majority areas would have started out as among the poorest.
I grew up in the 80s, and back then if you were in PG County between the DC line and inside The Beltway, you were most definitely in “the 'hood.”
In the past decade or two the area I would consider the “bad” part has retracted pretty much all the way back to the DC border; in fact there are really only a few small pockets on the Maryland side I would hesitate to go these days.
Atlanta’s metropolitan area is rediculously large - 8376 square miles as defined by the US Census Bureau, an area the roughly size of Massachusetts, and contains 21 counties with almost 150 cities. By way of comparison, the VA Beach metro covers 497 square miles. As of the 2000 census, less than 10% of the metro population lived in the city limits of Atlanta. It is impossible to discuss a crime rate for the metro area and have any context at all. That 8376 sq. miles includes some of the highest and lowest crime areas in the country.
Makes for tough comparisons, for sure.
The city of Juneau, Alaska is 3,255 square miles. That’s not the metro area, that’s the area within the city limits. A huge percentage of that is wilderness, but wilderness that is fully incorporated into the legal “city limits”. Jurisdictional boundaries mean very little.
Iiirc there are some municipalities in the Pacific that are spread over dozens of islands scattered across thousands of miles. For example, many of the far-flung tiny Japanese islands scattered here and there are legally incorporated into the City of Tokyo for administrative purposes.
What is the definition of “culturally black”? While we’re at it, what does it mean to be “culturally Asian”? Can a person be a True Scotsman if he doesn’t eat haggis?
At the risk of repeating myself— Mount Rainier, Maryland, is one answer that fits the OP. Seriously, check it out. I have not visited Upper Marlboro, but I’m willing to take robert_columbia’s word for it.