Best film noirs

Both films directed by John Dahl.

Then he made a turkey called “Unforgettable”, which really killed the momentum of his career. He never fully recovered, although I liked his “Joy Ride” - a teen horror B-movie which is surprisingly effective.

Jane Greer … sizzling!

Dashiell Hammett is acceptable as well.

Yep.

Would Les Diaboliques count? It’s certainly moody.

I would recommend Chinatown, The Third Man, and The Maltese Falcon. The Unforgiven is a fabulous film, but it isn’t a noir; it’s a Western.
I don’t recommend Blood Simple. I thought it was confusing and as boring as hell. YMMV

I just watched this one. I don’t remember if I noticed before watching that Wikipedia calls it “thriller comedy” and Imdb writes “relies on slapstick comedy.” I liked the movie somewhat, and do like a little comedy mixed in with my noir. But this one had much too much comedy and not enough noir.

Fargo has a much better mix of comedy and noir, IMO. Any others like that? (besides Coen Brothers, most of which I’ve seen.)

A Simple Plan is a good modern noir. It features characters who make a poor moral choice that leads them down a dangerous path.

Would “Road To Perdition” be considered noir? It’s both the consequences of the fathers decision to live by the sword and the more immediate consequences of the sons spying on his dad. In addition, it does have a dark, underworld setting for much of it’s run. To me, the long shot of Sullivan leaving the elevator, drawing his gun and walking into the hotel bathroom is VERY noir in it’s execution.

Well, is it?

Like Super Size Me. :stuck_out_tongue:

I came to say this. At the time I was calling it the first film noir in color. It might or might not have been then but it sounded good. There certainly are more examples now.

James Cain, Patricia Highsmith, Jim Thompson, Cornell Woolrich

“Neo-noir” started before the 1970s. John Boorman’s Point Blank (1967) is a prime example. Walker (Lee Marvin) is powerless because he can’t identify his antagonist — he’s trying to fight a corporate criminal organization.

And he doesn’t die in the end…just spookily fades into a background.

I still consider Apocalypse Now to be a noir film. I don’t care what the definition of noir is supposed to be, it’s clearly has the right tone and morally questionable characters.

Compound plural nouns always meant trouble, and too much trouble found me in my office when the guns moll sipping whiskies sour slinked in on heels high. I promised myself this would be the last time I’d accept twins as clients…

I’m surprised that Memento hasn’t been included.

David Dodge, Charles Willeford, David Goodis, Dorothy Hughes, Horace McCoy, Charles Williams, William Lindsay Graham…