Best works with the dumbest plot elements

And in real life, when that exact plan was used, the people didn’t just suck it up and pay. They rebelled, and the government nationalized the water supply. So much for their cunning plan.

Even in the movie, it was seen that the region was economically dead, and people were moving away. Who is going to buy your water, Quantum?

Still a better movie than Skyfall, which is flawed right at the foundation.

My nit with the movie setting was the use of the Eindecker airplane, one which was already obsolete and out of use by 1916. 1917/18 the skies were filled with biplanes, triplanes, Flying Circuses, etc. While cool to see the Eindecker being used in a movie, it was a weird anachronism for late-war WW1. Maybe it could be fanwanked that there is a squadron of them still being used away from the front, but you’d think a secret project base with a too-modern mega bomber would have some contemporary Albatrosses or Fokkers to protect the base.

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Yep, but Kodos was governor of a relatively small colony of 8,000ish people. From the perspective of a Federation with umpty-umph worlds and colonies, he was a lesser-known functionary. Less like Pol Pot, more like Jim Jones.

I’m willing to cut the filmmakers some slack and imagine that Maj. Strasser was under orders to play nice so as to have the Vichy administration of Casablanca remain more inexpensively pro-Nazi until, perhaps, a German garrison force could arrive.

I have to preface this by saying, I loves me some Game of Thrones! But… a couple of corpses reanimate and the plan is to take three hundred warriors beyond the wall? A wall that has stood for millennia and has not be attacked yet? And, since we need help, lets send the most abrasive asshole in Westeros to ask for aid!

Magneto wears a helmet that blocks Professor X’s telepathy, so he can stay hidden. This doesn’t explain why Professor X doesn’t just look for Sabretooth, Toad, or his friggin’ sister

Yet, still a great episode.

Boxey (aka Troy) goes from being a 6-7 year old boy in TOS to a middle-aged man in G:80 after a 30 year voyage (at least according to the series bible). Yes it’s impossible to reconcile this with them intercepting footage of Apollo 11 in The Hand of God, considered the Moon landing only took place in 1969, but way more than 11 years passed before the found Earth. This fan timeline explains some of the issues.

Does time pass in Earth at the same rate that it passes for the people on the Galactica?

There an episode of *L&O: SVU *that makes me nuts, because dramatically, it’s a great episode, but the premise is flawed.

It’s called “Stolen,” and it’s the one where a recent kidnapping helps Cragen solve a child disappearance from a long time ago, when he was at the 27th precinct.

OPEN SPOILERS:
A woman is murdered, and her newborn son is missing from his crib.

That makes sense if someone killed her to get the baby, right? but that’s not what happened. The person who killed her was a woman who also had a baby by the same father, and wanted to marry him, and didn’t want him to find out he had another child. So she killed, KILLED, the mother, then while she was supposed to be looking after a newborn of her own, went through an elaborate caper of representing herself as the mother of the baby with the dead mother, and gives him to a private adoption attorney.

Right?

No. She just killed the mother-- she would have killed the baby too, right? If she was overcome by hormones, or something, she would have dropped him off at a safe haven. Or even not at one, but just left him some place like a hospital. Getting herself fake ID to misrepresent herself as the mother was just too much. It’s necessary, because it’s how the baby eventually gets traced, but it’s stupid, right?

The episode doesn’t focus much on that, though. It focuses on Cragen finding the kid after all these years, and then the custody between the adoptive parents and the bio father. That’s all nice and dramatic, and upon first viewing, distracts you from the glaring plot hole. But if you see it a second or third time, and start to think about it, it falls apart.

FWIW, Gen Henri Giraud was captured by the Germans in May 1940, escaped from a POW camp in Dresden, and made his way to Unoccupied France. Berlin wanted him back, but the Vichy government refused to extradite him.

He eventually co-headed the Free French movement for a time in North Africa, alongside Charles deGaulle.

Wonder Woman - I figured that the island became “discoverable” because Diana discovered her powers for the first time, thereby opening some kind of rift?

Or - POOF - magic

The fog explanation works for me.

Or maybe the island just wasn’t in a place where ships ever had reason to be. Generally you’re sailing from someplace, to someplace else, and you take the shortest path to get there. Maybe Themyscira is in some out of the way place, and no one ever sailed through the invisibility screen because it wasn’t between where they were and where they wanted to go.

Do we even know where in the world it is? Trevor flew there from Germany, so that suggests the North Sea somewhere. But the weather, buildings, plants, etc. look more Mediterranean.

It’s on the other side of Skull Island, where Kong lives.

Chain Reaction. Keanu Reeves and his scientist buddies invent a way to get energy from water, but if something goes wrong it turns the water into a huge bomb. In the beginning, when evil peepulz steal the info to suppress the invention, the bathtub-sized reactor vessel of water explodes, taking out something like 16 city blocks. At the end of the movie, Keanu has sent out plans of his reactor to thousands of scientists. Yay! Free energy for everyone!

Except for the nasty point that, he’s also sent out the ability for anyone to build a nuclear bomb-level device if they have his reactor designs and a swimming pool. It’s a terrorist’s wet dream. I realized this early on, and all through the movie I’m cheering on the bad guys, hoping they’ll stop that mumbly SOB.

I switched it off after the first five minutes, when he outran the blast wave on his motor scooter and took cover in a ditch.

Blast waves travel at something like 26,000 fps, and they expand to fill every little depression you might try to hide in. He would have been crushed by something denser than solid steel.

My vote is Die Hard II, where the terrorists take over an airport at Christmastime. The movie and its failings have been thoroughly dissected elsewhere in this forum.

Its sole virtue is that things happen so fast you don’t have time to dwell on how silly they are. (I sat through it three nights in a row when it first came out. Guilty pleasure!)

This season of Fargo, which I must confess I put this series up on the same pedestal as Breaking Bad as the one of the best TV series ever made. As with just about any Cohen bros concept, there is a unstoppable evil force vs a naive character or couple thrust into a criminal situation which they try to take advantage of and usually some omnipotent narrator or police unit that is ineffective at stopping the evil force. Anyway, one of the plot points is that the naive character is refusing to sign papers for the unstoppable evil. But I’m thinking, why does this evil clan care about a legit signature? Why wouldn’t they just forge it? I mean they kill innocent people without question, what’s a little signature fraud?

Can I mention the Professor Layton games? I had a rant ages agoabout the first one:

Don’t get me wrong - I enjoyed the puzzles but that was a pretty honking big plothole. Nonetheless I tried the next two games…which also had enormous issues appearing at the end.

In “The Diabolical Box/Pandora’s Box”, it turns out that the whole time they were in the town they were hallucinating…but weirdly both the Professor and Luke were having the exact same hallucination for days, which is stretching credulity to the limit.

In “Unwound Future/Lost Future”, we discover that the bad guy is Clive, seeking revenge for the explosion which killed his parents. In the end Clive is sorry for his crimes and promises to atone. Unfortunately his “crimes” include tearing a massive hole in central London, which would have killed tens of thousands of people. Good luck atoning for that one, Clive. How many evil masterminds will that spawn?After that, I gave up.

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Two other things about that Star Trek:TOS episode.

First, in retrospect, Kodo/Karidian was likely based on Adolf Eichmann.

Second, Kodo/Karidian was a governor before he became an actor. I thought this was rather odd until I realized this is the reverse of Ronald Reagan’s career. Reagan had just been elected governor of California when the show first aired, and since he was considered a quasi-John Bircher with fascistic views by many Hollywood liberals, the episode was basically a thinly-disguised jab at him.