Bible prophecy

If you are truly curious as to why some think Jesus doesn’t fulfill the required prophecies to be a messiah, read this. It discusses all the ways he doesn’t qualify for the job.

What about Matthew 12:42?

It says “The Queen of the South will rise…”

They’re currently fifth in the second tier of Scottish football, seven points behind Raith Rovers and looking unlikely to rise this season.

So where does that leave your Biblical prophecies?

It was well known that Jesus was from Nazareth, so the writers of the Bible had to invent a story about the census (of which there is no evidence) to justify him being born in Bethlehem. Just like they had to invent the myth of the virgin birth to justify the writer of Matthew’s mistranslation of young girl into virgin.

My teachers in Hebrew could read the Bible in its original language - and they are not at all impressed with Christianity.
And by the way, Psalms are only prophecy if you wrest incorrect meaning from the poetry.

And Nostradamus has a higher percentage of prophecy than the Bible even assuming your laughable overestimation is correct.

Jesus to Peter:

“Get Away from Me Satan!”

Jesus to the Pharisees:

“YOU are FOOLS!”

You’re off to a bad start. Nostradamus wrote ‘Les Prophecies’, which consists almost entirely of prophecies.
Also which third of the Bible is prophecy? For example, Chronicles 1 and 2 are practically all genealogy.

I attended 10 years of Sunday School, won the Religious Knowledge prize at my State School and have discussed the Bible with many people.
Interestingly you’re the first one to claim the Bible is 100% accurate. Vicars, Deacons, Bishops, Canons, Chaplains all agree that the Bible contains errors (and much symbolism.)
Having studied the Bible in depth, I am now an atheist. (I was particularly troubled by the contradictions in the Gospels concerning Jesus rising from the dead.)

Leviticus 26: 18-24 contains no information about dates.
Ezekiel 4: 4-7 says the House of Israel shall bear iniquity a total for 430 years.

Where on earth do you get 1948 from that?

The problem is the bible says Jesus was born in BETHLEHEM, not Nazareth. (Micah 5:2)

And those prophesies were written before Jesus was born and secular science has PROVEN this.

The OT was translated into Greek 200 years before the birth of Christ.

So you can’t argue its made up after the fact.

“And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell.” -Matthew 5:22

the same place everyone else gets it.

http://www.hebroots.org/hebrootsarchive/9808/9808_m.html

Have you anything to say about all the prophesies he didn’t fulfill?(see post #41)

Take the 18 and divide it by the 2 in 26 and you get 9; put the 1 from 18 in front of 9; now 19; add the 4 to the end; now add the 8 from 18 to the end of that: 1948!

Q.E.D.

Read the context.

Its wrong to call people fools when they are not guilty of your accusations.

Jesus, the prophets, God and the Apostles all called unbelievers fools repeatedly.

Very impressive. After all, what are the odds that someone from the tribe of Judah would also be from the line of Jacob? And what are the odds that someone descended from Isaac would also be descended from Abraham, let alone Shem? I’m almost convinced.

I have great news for you. The genealogy of Jesus was not irretrievably lost in the fall of Jerusalem. After years of research, I have located a complete list of his ancestors, from Joseph all the way back to King David and beyond. It’s in the first chapter of Matthew.

The only trouble is, there’s another one in the third chapter of Luke, and it is completely different. It’s almost as if they just made stuff up about Jesus to make it look like he fulfilled prophecies. Of course, even with all their help, there’s no doubt that he didn’t do anything a Messiah was supposed to do, like drive the Romans out of Israel.

All that aside, it’s not that big a deal to be prophesied in the Bible. Ezekiel 23:20 is an uncannily accurate prophecy about me, and you don’t hear me bragging about it.

What a load of mathematical voodoo. :rolleyes:

And that is not at all what the propechy said would happen. It said, cities destroyed, Egypt barren of man or animal, and population scattered. That did not happen, no matter how many Egyptian kings were killed.

Also, although it would not all affect the prophecy’s inaccuracy (because Egypt was not made barren and empty), I’d like secular sources on Nebuchadnezzar kiling Necho II. I don’t know anything Necho II except a spectacular lost battle. I’ve never seen reference to how he died.

Nope. As the bible itself flat-out says, Nebuchadnezzar did not destroy Tyre. Prophecy failed. Wikipedia, secular mainline historian representative (not the best source, but easily accessible) says “ended in a compromise, with the Tyrians accepting Babylonian authority” which is no sense the same as

And which of these are you?

I hadn’t even clicked on the links when I posted, but I think my solution is simpler.

lol

Were are the other 350+ prophecies predicting your birth, birthplace, life, ministry, betrayal, crucifixion, burial, and resurrection?

To be the Messiah, you have to fulfill all of them, not just one or two.

Were you born in Bethlehem Israel, a tiny little town of about 1000 people?

Once again, Jesus certainly didn’t fulfill the necessary ones-see post #41.

Amazing. People won’t even give it an honest look.

Please click on them-if we had the ROFLMFAO smiley available, you’d be using it, I guarantee.