Big pet peeve

I have a pet peeve slightly related to my OCD nature. I firmly believe that if you must have a bed pushed against an electrical outlet, it should have nothing plugged into it EXCEPT socket covers. (Virtually no risk of anything this way)

My sister on the other hand, has had her bed against an outlet, with a TV and DVR plugged into it, FOR 10 YEARS, I told her its just a fire waiting to happen if she pushes the bed in (you know after making it) and damages the receptacle or plug. She said “It’s been fine this long” and won’t do anything about it.

Can someone give me their opinion on it, so I can print it out and show her why its risky or not?

Got forbid a plug is ajar (LOL @ my older posts) and she tucks a foot by it or something

Take a screwdriver, or key, and jam it into one hole of an electrical outlet. Guess what happens?

Nothing.

You need to complete the circuit. Ain’t gonna happen pushing a bed up against the wall.

Quit worrying.

Slightly?"

Not worried, well about my own anyhow. because even if that the case, I have both of mine covered (socket covers) and the outlet is between the frame and the floor (not touching anything. I just don’t want anything to happen to my sis. She generally doesn’t worry about stuff at all like I do, but still.

You could sneak into her house and take the wheels off the bed.

Go and buy a 97c extension cord at WalMart, and read your sister the labels with all the product safety warnings on it. Last time I counted, there were 38 warnings on three different attached warnings (although a few seemed to be duplicated). One of them warned not to leave it plugged in when not in use. Which means when it is time to turn off your reading lamp and go to sleep, you have to crawl under the bed and unplug the cord, grasping the plug itself and pulling it out of the socket. Which is really a good idea, because you can then check for monsters under the bed at the same time, which are unaddressed by the product warnings, not being directly under the jurisdiction of Underwriter Laboratories or the National Safety Council.

If you want to be both OCD *and *practical you buy extension cord(s) with end(s) like this: https://www.cableorganizer.com/images/landing-pages/flat-plug/flat-plug-application.jpg

Even if the bed pushes on it/them it’s not going to dislodge or damage the connector(s) or the outlet. I use extension cords like this with every outlet hidden by every piece of furniture in every house I’ve had for decades. I run one cord off to the left and one off to the right. So sitting on the floor at the rear corner of every dresser or bed or china cabinet or whatever there’s an extension cord head with 2 or 3 outlets just waiting to be used.

I’ve never had a problem in about 500 cord-years of use.

Or get something like this:

https://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/store/product/side-socket-trade-swiveling-electrical-outlet/1041519202?skuId=41519202&mcid=PS_googlepla_nonbrand_homedecor_&adpos=1o6&creative=43742653069&device=c&matchtype=&network=s&gclid=Cj0KEQjwuZvIBRD-8Z6B2M2Sy68BEiQAtjYS3MKG3TsFRNskDy8zA5rPj_PNxR5WXL_-U-1XcqjmCqoaAnpS8P8HAQ

Awesome!

Did know those existed (the flat plug extension cords), going to order one for her. Thank you for the tip!

Onto other things, is there some type of connector that looks similar to a cheater plug, but with 3 prongs, that sticks out of the outlet (like an extension)? Need that for a different purpose and can’t seem to find a decent one. I have a Flat cord that sticks out and need to plug another flat one in and cannot do it without one.

The issue here is that when we push something up against the extension cord it’ll smoosh down the plastic insulation … repeat a half a hundred times and we’ll have real damage to the above mentioned insulation … hopefully when this happens it will cause a complete short that will trip the breaker and the OP’s sister will notice and can quickly put any fire out … but at worst it will only cause a partial short, not trip a standard breaker and just get hotter and hotter and finally catch fire when the sister is off to work …

The last house I wired was in 2006 … I had to use special breakers for the bedroom circuits and I was told by the electrical inspector that this was the exact circumstances these new breakers were supposed to protect against … so the OP might want to check with their local Fish and Wildlife agency … if the NEC has taken this under consideration … it might be illegal now to keep this particular peeve as a pet …

I have a similar peeve about peoples walking on my commercial grade extension cords … please step around or in between but never just step on the cord … especially if I’ve a 16d nail gun in my hands …

I know, right? It causes all that 'lectricity to dam up behind their foot and the drill PRM’s drop to almost nil, then when they step off a flood of 'lectricity comes flying down the cord, the drill takes off at like 50 million RPM’s until the wave crests and everything gets back to normal and I’m left with a nasty friction burn on my screw hole.

I HATE friction burns on my screw hole.

The advantage to that is you’ll then be able to worry about her putting a rug over the top of the cord or the cat sleeping on it or something and it overheats and burns down the entire city. Win-win!

Situation resolved itself, but man did this thread become entertaining!

What ever happened to the cat and the box of steel wool?

=)

It’s not the shoe that damages the cord … it’s the sharp ass gravel under the cord that will cut it … maybe you missed that part about “commercial grade” in a commercial environment … developers wait until after the building is built before they pave and landscape … that means crushed gravel with razor sharp edges everyplace … including under your cords …

Does the length matter? Then it would be cord-foot-years.

Dennis

Good point. The OP is OCD about connection faults, not about failures in the cable body. So for that measure of concern cord-years is good enough.

A further refinement in yet another direction is cord-connector-years since many such cords have a three-female connector on the distal end. A cord with 3 female ends has 4 potential connection failure points, not just two that a single-female cord does.

One can further refine by cord-connector-in-use-years, since a cord end with nothing plugged into it is far less likely to suffer connector failure leading to a fire. By that measure my lifetime experience is vastly reduced as the vast majority of my connector ends are unused.

A full risk model would include all these factors as well as your suggestion of cord length. As watchwolf49 has pointed out, his cords suffer risk proportional to length (and bystander stupidity). For indoor extension cords deployed behind furniture that particular risk is very near zero. But accumulating dust bunnies and enclosed spaces impeding cooling, and perhaps vermin chewing unnoticed are all risks we ought to account for to arrive at the idealized perfect risk model.

:smiley:
Despite all the silliness above, it’s interesting that there is a real-world direct analog to this silliness with real-world consequences: What is the relevant measure of risk for commercial air travel?

Is it per aircraft mile, per aircraft flight, per aircraft time, per passenger mile, per passenger flight, or per passenger time? Are different risk measures applicable to different constituencies? How & why?

To a first approximation, all the risk is in takeoffs and landings. In other words, at the “connector” between flight and not-flight. Which are, by definition, one each per flight cycle, with enroute time or distance or passenger count immaterial. Much like the risk of extension cord failure is mostly at the interface ends, not so much in the middle.

OTOH, people don’t go for flights as entertainment. They fly X hundred miles from A to B in lieu of driving or taking a train the equivalent distance. So *relative *risk ought to have some distance or time factor applied.

etc.

I guess I shoulda used a smiley.