I say Medicare For All. And thank the Flying Spaghetti Monster for that.
I can now comfortably vote for the Democratic candidate and with some support get rid of Trump.
( I would have been forced to vote for Trump to not jeopardize my family’s excellent private health insurance for the DMV version).
Uggh. While I’m glad you’ll vote for the presumptive candidate, that you’d vote for Trump just because of a teeny-tiny chance of harming your insurance, vs mass suffering to thousands upon thousands due to Trump’s monstrous policies, does say something about your values.
Yes, I agree that Trump is a despicable monster but I have to look out for my family’s well-being first.
But MFA is dead at last I hope. I don’t want my family to stand in line at the DMV for medical care.
I hope we can defeat Trump together as Biden voters.
Do you realize that all first world countries (except the US) have socialized medicine and they also have better health outcomes than the US does?
If you want the best medical care for your family M4A is the way to go.
I support Universal Health Care! I support the ACA! I support a public option!
I just want to retain my quality private insurance as is my right in a market society and I don’t want my family to stand in line for the garbage that ‘Medicare For All’ will become when everyone has the same shit the US Post Office and DMV sells.
I want to pay for a first class seat. And I will. And Bernie and Liz will wither away like the worthless Useless Idiots they are.
Reported.
Best, and easiest, health care I ever got was entirely government run - when I was active duty in the Navy. If anyone ever tells you that government run health care always sucks, they obviously never served in the military. The VA needs a lot of improvement, but active duty care is utterly fantastic, with no worries or bureaucracy to deal with. Just great care, already paid for by the government.
That “garbage” provides better health outcomes in most other countries.
In short, you or your employer are paying a LOT of money for sub-standard goods.
Weird thing is you are happy with that.
The “health outcomes” you care about are for the 20-30 million who don’t pay for insurance now.
I don’t care about those people beyond Medicaid that the ACA gives them.
I care about my family.
That is what you socialists will never understand. Markets discover price relevance.
You are completely wrong.
Just Google “world health outcomes ranking” since I doubt you will believe me.
Overall your chances of surviving in a US hospital are lower than most western European hospitals that all have socialized medicine. And it costs less too…a lot less.
But you are content to pay more for subpar results. Maybe you just have lots of money and don’t care if you squander it.
Get the fuck out of here with that not responsible for my own actions BULLSHIT.
The thing I don’t get about this is that to prevent something you think would take away your healthcare, you would vote for a party that is currently suing the federal government to try to completely remove Obamacare, and a president who is refusing to defend the law in court.
This doesn’t exactly matter now as Biden is going to be the nominee and has a UHC proposal you apparently can live with, but I really don’t get that this particular issue is a case where Trump is a better candidate than any Democrat in your eyes.
No, the “health outcomes” are across total populations. Many of those countries also have private insurance on top of Universal Health Care (UHC). It’s an add on for those that can afford it and provides some benefits. You’d likely be better off with UHC and private add-on - both financially and in terms of outcomes.
ACA does not give everybody Medicaid, that’s why the new plans were called…wait for it…Medicaid For All. You have obviously done VERY little research on this. ACA offered states the option to expand the rolls of Medicaid, but not to everybody. And a fair number of states (mostly those run by Republican Governors and/or Legislatures) declined to take the offer.
I don’t doubt you care about your family. Our concern here is that you don’t seem to care about anybody else’s - and have stated as much. I hope you don’t lose that job and that excellent private health insurance someday, but it would be nice if you might try to have a little empathy and care about those who have lost theirs (or never had it in the first place).
Rather than beat the M4A dead horse again, it’s clear the biggest loser of the primary season was Elizabeth Warren. Has a major candidate ever finished 3rd in their own state?
Spending so long on fundraising purity tests and then gets exposed as a hypocrite. Rants about super pacs, then has one supporting her with most of the money coming from just one donor.
My guess is Warren resigns from the Senate after 2022 or declines to run for reelection. She can go back to academia and hit the speaking circuit. Massachusetts has a deep D bench and she’s ripe for a primary challenge.
Thank you! Warren was just a sorry-ass candidate who ran against President Obama and all tech companies and embraced a gigantic $5.2 trillion year single payer debacle. She was a terrible candidate and voters knew it.
PHEW!!!
For you single payer people - try again in about 10-15 years. Voters hate that shit!
And once again I don’t give a fucking rat’s ass about “total populations”. I care about the micro-economics of my family. You socialists will never understand that.
Same
The cult of healthcare plans is simply bizarre. It has infected a large portion of the electorate on every possible side of every aisle, every Democratic campaign, as well as pretty much the entire media.
The first part is flatly untrue.
Ok…who did I miss?
Insurance is important to have, but when you place a greater value on having insurance than on not having a deadly plague loose in the land, I have to worry about you. Insurance won’t protect you or your family from catching this thing, nor will it protect you from the societal fallout even if you don’t catch it.