Bill O’Reilly is open minded? Did you even read the fucking link I gave? The one where he tells a man who lost his father in 9.11 to shut up because he doesn’t care what he thinks? Whatever you’re smoking, save some for me cuz it’s definately the good shit.
P.S. Ashtar, you might consider giving your post another once-over.
Regardless of the politics involved I’ll tell you why I enjoy watching:
In politics, the first thing they teach you about dealing with the media is ‘stay on message’. What this entails is twisting around questions to suit your agenda, and getting out your pre-scripted answers no matter the cost. It means ignoring questions you’re not ready to answer and turning the conversation back to your points every chance you get.
O’Reilly doesn’t stand for that. It’s absolutely hilarious to see someone in complete shock when the interviewer doesn’t politely ignore their blatant pre-scripted responses. They’re flabbergasted that someone would actually call them on dodging a question.
Others have eluded to how he tells people to shut up when they stray off topic or when they spout what is (in Mr. O’Reilly’s opinion) a completely ludicrous accusation. Well, it’s his show. He’s not legally obliged to give a shit about his guests’ viewpoints, and they are not contractually obligated to go on the show. All’s fair and whatnot.
How about Glenn Beck? I like him. I quite rarely agree with him, but he says what he believes without distorting what other people believe. He’s far too conservative for me…but he doesn’t offend me. We need a LOT more like that – on all sides!
It’s only a “no spin zone” when a liberal is talking. He does not treat conseravatives the same way. Anyone from the Bush administration, especially, gets to spew any bullshit they want while O’Reilly just nods approvingly. Did you see that fucking rim job he gave to GWB during the 2000 election campaign?
The phrase “no spin zone” is really just an all purpose totem that he chants whenever he’s getting his ass kicked in a debate.
I’ve said it before on these O’Reilly pit threads, I’d love to see O’Reilly try to hold his own on the SDMB. He would get absolutely destroyed. I think we could make him cry, I mean literally cry tears. It would sure be fun to try.
I didn’t say anything about a ‘No Spin Zone’. I just said it was entertaining to watch. Sorta like the Jerry Springer of politics. I just get tired of the same old stiff talking heads and political figures. It’s fun to dice it up a bit. As close to a political cage-match as we’re ever going to get, unfortunately.
I was contending that O’Reilly only does this with liberals. He does nothing to challenge the scripted speeches of Bush administration shills. You didn’t use the term “no spin zone,” but that’s the way O’Reilly describes his own tactics. He gets to define what “spin” is and no one ever gets to call him on his own. I don’t mind someone being tough on both sides (Chris Matthews does a better job of that than O’Reilly, I think) but O’Reilly is not only not objective, he’s not even really that tough. He sreams at people and insults them but there is seldom any real content or substance to his polemic. It’s just a lot of noise and hand waving. He’s a journalistic fraud and an intellectual lightweight. How do you think he’d do on SDMB, XJETGIRLX?
I don’t watch the show partly because everytime I have, that is the only thing he does. For example, he recently had some one on and was preaching to this guy that since attacting the NY Times, the Times’s editorial position shifted to the right. The guy, I don’t know who he was, started quoting right-leaning headlines that were printed before O’Riley did his shtick, thus disproving O’Riley’s thesis. End of story. O’Riley kept ranting on and on, shouting over the evidence, and kept asserting the truth of his position even though the only evidence clearly disproved him.
Calling that guy the Jerry Springer of politics is an insult to Jerry Springer.
Neither. I would propose that people are watching simply to see how outrageous he might become, thru his worlds or actions. As soon as he stops being controversial, he’ll sink out of sight.
I’m convinced the networks put on outrageous people on the air to draw ratings. It’s the modern equivilent of the stonings and feeding the Christians to the lions of Imperial Rome. Something to entertain the masses. If modern networks could figure out a way, we’d be seeing prime time public executions. And not something easy like hangings, we’d see electrocution or something else as grizzly.