Prof. KRUGMAN: Yeah. Actually I just want to say a word about “Fahrenheit 9/11,” just to talk a little bit about Bill O’Reilly’s credibility on this. Bill has said on air that Michael Moore believes that we are an evil country, and if you saw the film, you know that’s not true, and actually you denied in the same program that you’d said what you just said. But anyways, I think that’s a little bit of something to look out for with credibility.
Mr. O’REILLY: You want to quote me and give me the date of the program?
Prof. KRUGMAN: Oh, sure. June 28th on “The Radio Factor.”
Mr. O’REILLY: And where did you get that little evil quote, by the way? You don’t listen to “The Radio Factor.”
Prof. KRUGMAN: Oh, no, but I get–but they have video clips. They have–they have a clip.
Mr. O’REILLY: Oh, who–well, who gave it to you?
Prof. KRUGMAN: Yeah, it is mediamatters.
Mr. O’REILLY: Mediamatters. Oh, I see. A real objective Web site.
Prof. KRUGMAN: Hey, wait a second…
Mr. O’REILLY: Hey, Mr. Propaganda, you ought to take and do your own research, pal, and stop taking the left-wing garbage and throwing it out there for the folks.
Prof. KRUGMAN: What have I said that’s false?
Mr. O’REILLY: Do your own research.
Prof. KRUGMAN: Come on.
Mr. O’REILLY: That’s out of context, and you know it.
Prof. KRUGMAN: It helps me. It is not.
Mr. O’REILLY: It helps you, baloney.
Prof. KRUGMAN: They’ve got the clip. You guys can listen to it.
Mr. O’REILLY: You are about the most unobjective person on the face of the–mediamatters…
Prof. KRUGMAN: Oh, come on.
Mr. O’REILLY: Why don’t you just call Fidel? Call him up and have at it. He’ll tell you what’s going on.
Prof. KRUGMAN: Oh, wonderful. Now that we got the great …(unintelligible) ends up being a Communist.
RUSSERT: Wait, wait…
Mr. O’REILLY: Mediamatters. Oh, my–that’s like me calling some Klan operation.
Prof. KRUGMAN: Hey.
Mr. O’REILLY: Why don’t I call the Ku Klux Klan?
Prof. KRUGMAN: Here we go. Here we go. Here we go.
RUSSERT: Read the quote. Read the quote and…
Mr. O’REILLY: What a bunch of garbage, mediamatters.
Prof. KRUGMAN: Yeah, the quote is, ‘So this is the United States, who has freed the world from communism, freed the world from fascism, from the axis powers, freed the Pacific from Japanese, OK? All of this, but according to Moore we bring sadness and misery to places all around the globe.’
Mr. O’REILLY: That’s right. He said that.
Prof. KRUGMAN: ‘This says Michael Moore. He believes this. He believes that we are an evil country.’ Now I saw a film, a flawed film, a lot of things that were overstated…
Mr. O’REILLY: OK. Read…
Prof. KRUGMAN: …but I think that there were a lot of things in that film that showed that this is a guy who really does love his country.
Mr. O’REILLY: All right. You want to think he loves his country, you go (unintelligible).
Prof. KRUGMAN: And he loves the working pow–people of America, and if you could watch that…
Mr. O’REILLY: Hezbollah feels the same way that you do.
Prof. KRUGMAN: Oh, come on. Guilt by association.
Mr. O’REILLY: Come on what?
Prof. KRUGMAN: Somebody picks it up, somebody picks up, you know, there are–there are–there are actual–there are right-wing hate groups who like to quote you. Do you think that makes you guilty of everything that they do?
Mr. O’REILLY: You know what? I never call those right-wing hate groups up to get my quotes.
Prof. KRUGMAN: That’s…
Mr. O’REILLY: You call the left-wing hate groups up to get your propaganda. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. Do your own research.