Black coffee

This claims that there are places where everyone agrees on the meaning of “black coffee.” In America that would likely only be true in a restaurant where everyone is taught what is meant in that building. I think you could go to any city in the country with more than 100 people and find disagreement. This is something you fail to see.

You don’t have to, but my friend, you have not addressed a single point I’ve made…in any of my posts.

I could, once again, apply reason to what you have said, but you would not address a single issue.

What lets me know that I am right is that if I did respond to you now, I would recycle what I have said prior, and I would show how it does punch holes in your argument. You just say new stuff. If you can’t discuss even one point I’ve made, there is a reason. I’ve logically body-slammed you.

Hah! You prove my point. First, if I spelled something wrong, it does not address my point, or prove you right about anything except my pour spelling. :stuck_out_tongue: Why the attitude? Probably because you were bullied as a child.

Also, you are trying to prove that standardization is valuable, which I would agree with, but in many areas, “incorrect” spelling is the norm. Why are you being such a stickler?

I don’t know about you guys, but the above bit of reasoning really dazzled me.

Irony meter = blowed up.

If someone said “I’m drinking my coffee black today!” I’d take it to mean no sugar or cream or additives of any time. But if someone said, “I’d like my coffee black, 1 sugar” I wouldn’t think they were speaking in some riddled contradiction either. I think it works fine in either context.

Saying “I’ll have my coffee black with 2 creams and 1 sugar” would be stupid though.

Again, if I say “I take my coffee black,” and that could mean with or without sugar, then “black” is not completely clear.

Do you disagree with that?

Um… what?

If you didn’t understand a single thing I said, then I can’t help you.

Er… I agree with you about coffee. About spelling, not so much.

I would… Sure, it’s clear what is meant, but it’s still contradictory. It’s like someone saying, “I’ll dine alfresco, but in here.” Okay, his intent is clear, but he’s using the word wrong. “I want my eggs scrambled, but with the yolk unbroken.” Again, I see what he wants, but he clearly isn’t using the words correctly.

Wait staff have to deal with this a lot…

(My dad, a Navy barber, once had a lieutenant ask for his hair to be cut “short on the outside but long on the inside.” The lieutenant then dozed off in the barber chair. My dad just shrugged and gave him a standard lieutenant’s buzz cut. The guy seemed happy, but all the rest of his life, my dad wondered what the dickens the guy had meant.)

Welcome to the SDMB, Dalai! :slight_smile:

Also, congratulations; over the course of this resurrected zombie thread, you have done more to cause me to rethink the superiority of prescriptivism than nearly fourteen years of browbeating by the board’s descriptivists have managed to accomplish.

What’s not to agree with about poor spelling? I mean, what did I say? Someone ignores the whole point I was making and chooses to comment on my spelling…as if this person has never misspelled a word. It just seems like a weak victory.

Thanks kaylasdad99.
I’m glad I may have helped turn you away from the dark side. :stuck_out_tongue:

I swear to god, if I order black coffee and you put sugar in it, there is going to be serious trouble.
If you don’t immediately replace it and try to play games telling me sugared coffee is still black, I’m breaking your nose.

If the Zombie is up, might as well play with it.

In the areas of AUS where I’ve been, Black coffee meant no milk, white coffee meant milk. Simple. Whether you wanted sugar or not was a separate question, no one would assume you want sugar and put it in, you’d either be asked how many sugars or would get it served without sugar and put in your own. But Black and White were clearly about colour only.

Nowdays, less and less places have the drip filter coffee and more use the Barista run contraption and create things with weird names.l