Gotcha- thanks.
Here’ same great thread from the Previously Tv forums (I think a lot of TWOP folks started this board) discussing issues around society and race on this show. They also have threads for each episode, if anyone is interested.
http://forums.previously.tv/topic/7002-social-and-race-issues-in-black-ish/#entry72857
It could have been worse, they could have cast Colin Farrell as the patriarch and called it Black Irish.
Nothing if not boringly predictable.
Nah, you’re not that bad; there’s an entertainingly stochastic element to your pittings: it’s like you roll a dice on what to be angry or upset about. This week, it’s… Teenage Rumble: Why 50s Hot Rod Flicks Are Destroying Society.
Thanks for the link; I just read the thread on the episode we’ve been discussing and there was no comment on the scene with the joggers, which was a tiny part of the show after the credits.
Check out the thread on the specific episode. It may have a discussion on that scene. The thread I linked to was a general discussion on race and social issues.
Glad you liked it.
Perhaps I wasn’t clear. I did read the thread on the specific episode.
My mistake- you did say that.
I just think most people found it absolutely fine, in context.
Good catch and that is the joke that I was making but it will fly over most people’s heads. Believe it or not, I mingle among all different groups with little effort because I was raised among a diverse group of people and it works out quite well and is often humorous. I don’t claim to be their keeper or cultural bodyguard though. My current best buddy is a Nigerian that became a U.S. citizen and now works with me. Every day is like the sequel to the movie Coming to America because I have never heard someone be that happy about mundane things but he is also really competent about the high-tech job that he was assigned to. The same thing can be said about my best employees and coworkers in Brazil, India and Argentina. Some are great, many are mediocre and some have to be fired through incompetence just like anyone else.
My one true prejudice is against really liberal white people even though I am very white myself. Those are some of the most arrogant, selectively ignorant and self-serving people in the world and I will happily shun one over almost anyone else. I would go to the most extreme inner city night club 100 times before I would ever consider going to any activity filled with overly liberal whites. They have a superiority disorder that will drown you in a sea of ignorance like a tsunami. That doesn’t apply to certain individuals (we have have some rationale ones on this board) but it is a safe bet that any so-called social rally in my area of Massachusetts at least will be the most intelectually incestious, ignorant hateful and counterporductive activity that the five percenters can ever engage in.
I consider myself to be fairly conservative from an area that was not progressive at all but I never made note of any of those issues or put standing up for them on my resume. It just came naturally as it should whether someone was black, gay, bisexual, HIV infected, drug addicted and everything else (all of those examples have really happened and most of them gave happened multiple times).
Let me make this clear because it is very important politically and socially. You get zero karma points for expressing outrage about something you know nothing about. What you can do is make personal connections with good examples with people from lots of different groups. That is surprisingly rare although it is hard to get people to admit that.
What a non-sequitur. The OP wasn’t complaining that he, personally, didn’t enjoy the show. He was complaining that a particular scene in it was sexist and encouraged objectification of women.
I don’t know whether he’s correct or not. But, as a general rule, “If you don’t like it, you don’t have to watch” is a silly, irrelevant answer to a complaint that something encourages attitudes or behaviors that the complainer doesn’t think should be encouraged.
The suffix “-ish” implies a level of indecisiveness about it. There is nothing “Jew-ish” about that show.
Me: Hey, do you know the mom?
Wife, who knows how to keep a kosher kitchen, despite being a shiksa: She’s all of my roommates in college.
He was doing more than complaining about one episode. He also said the series needs to be taken off the air.
So that crosses the line into dictating what others should watch. So I’ll repeat: If you don’t like the damn show, don’t watch it. He sounds like Terry Rakolta. And we all know how her boycott worked out for her.
Actually, he was just slated to be the showrunner. The show was created by Kenya Barris.
I have not seen every episode but I have caught a couple. Why would you think that the show is advocating that the behavior is proper? It seems that mostly the father is being shown as out of touch and and not very enlightened. He is played for laughs not as a cultural paragon. Many of us don’t need Mike Brady telling us what the lesson of the episode is for us to get it.
Um…Cochrane? People here express strong views. I said, It should not be on the air. What I did not do is attack anyone here for viewing it. M’kay?
Ooooooh. So, it is being played for laughs so that level of demeaning insulting sexist pig bullshit harassment is great because it’s being played for laughs !?
Thanks. Boy, that just changes everything.
So…teaching your daughter to take delight in huge Jewish noses, or your son in bouncing breasts, or your daughter in afros, or insert particular body part or ethnic signpost here. And it’s ALLLL great because it’s a comedy.
That’s interesting.
Fucking bullshit, of course. But interesting none the less.
Loach? Because it was played that way.
I think it’s a very funny show. The father is shown as being a nice, good guy who sees the world through a more racial lens than his children. He’s trying to come to grips with that and at the same time trying not to act like things were better in the past, when racism was more aggressive.
I like the tone, the way they try to deal with a lot of issues about culture by having Dre be an executive, working with a lot of white people who randomly say clueless things, being the VP of the “Urban Division” or something like that (paraphrased: “I’m the Vice President of black people!?”)
The family dynamic, while exaggerated for laughs, feels pretty realistic. My husband does the nod, btw. It makes me smile.
That’s your view and you’re entitled to it just as I am entitled to mine. My view is that ABC is not the only network with shows on that evening. So you could just watch something else that you don’t find so outrageous. Cartooniverse, meet Terry Rakolta.
I like the show, and I know it’s a comedy, but I found that part pretty insulting. Perpetuation of a negative stereotype, not to mention rationalizing it as part of one’s culture…smh.
So, how do those of you who are put off about this scene feel about the “hubba hubba” scene from Parenthood I mentioned up thread?
If I was an American of African descent I imagine the number of white people righteously outraged by the smallest insinuations of racism in stupid shit like television networks would irritate.
“That is of no substance, let me be offended for real or imagined slights against people with heritage similar to my own.” Is what I would think, “meantime, how about fixing the disparity in income, housing, education and justice I am likely to face based on the amount of melanin in my skin”.