I think you are completely wrong. Physics tells us that if you reduce pressure then there is no my high pressure.
Drug companies - that’s what ceased the basic medical care practice of blootletting - which existed for 2000 years.
The Romans, Greeks, Egyptians, Mayans, Aztecs, etc. etc. practiced simple bloodletting. It’s on wikipedia.
I have high blood pressure … extremely high - and I can tell you that you are wrong.
I am not obese… and I believe in modern technology and modern medicine, but capitalism often gets in the way, doesn’t it?
As a student of Physics… if you reduce the pressure on a pipe system by reducing the fluid, then that pipe structure will endure less stress. It does not matter the size of the fluids or the size of the pipes…
Bloodletting has been a successful medical strategy to combat high blood pressure for about 2000 years… until drug companies were established.
So in other words, your anecdotal report of your unscientific sample size of 1 trumps the medical resources and studies Cecil reviewed? But all that aside, since Cecil agreed that the pressure did drop in the short term…I don’t see what your beef is.
And the human circulatory system is not a simple hydraulic pipe network.
Not really. Considering that it took us until the late 1800s to figure out that some diseases were caused by “germs”, and we had thought otherwise for way more than 2000 years before that, longevity of a theory doesn’t necessarily mean squat.
I have high blood pressure… lately I’ve been experiencing tooth decay and intense paid.
When I lift my leg to get into beg, My tooth throbs.
So, I decided to practice bloodletting - obviously I have high blood pressure.
Really high blood pressure. All my teeth hurt.
I just drained some blood… because obviously this was a problem. When I put my leg up on the bed my tooth throbbed like RED ALERT, RED ALERT, RED ALERT.
Well it worked… so, argue all you like… I don’t really care. It worked.
P.S. There are 15 drugs that I didn’t need from companies in the USA and around the world who produce such drugs.
I just stuck a hypodermic needle into my arm and let the blood flow… it wasn’t that hard, and it worked. I feel 1000% better now.
Is how you feel the only evidence you are willing to accept at this time? If so, then I see no need to present you with cites and/or facts…and I also see no need to listen to your anecdotes.
Ghostie, if you have a problem with Czarcasm – or anyone else on this site – the proper place to take that problem is to the Pit.
You must be civil with others in the other forum areas, even in disagreement. You can “agree to disagree” and discuss and even argue points with people without being rude about it.
Una said “simple hydraulic pipe network”. Yes, the circulatory is a pipe network, but it is an adaptive one. The pipe sizes change based on other system triggers. Blood pressure is not strictly controlled by blood volume, but by other factors like water retention, and blood vessel constriction.
I’m not so bothered about calling it a pipe network. But you know that the fluid volume goes right back as soon as you take a drink of water, right? The body has many interconnected feedback systems to maintain homeostasis. If a system has gone wonky, it will keep re-establishing the high blood pressure. Fix the system, fix the problem. Relieve the symptom, symptom comes back.
If I were convinced that bleeding helped me, I’d donate blood, and I’d make sure I didn’t cheat on their schedule and give too often. Of course, I’d also see a dentist for tooth decay and pain. Leaving that untreated is dangerous. If you’re into history, historically, folks knew they could die from untreated tooth pain and they pulled the teeth as the treatment. BLOODLETTING HAS NEVER BEEN A TREATMENT FOR TOOTH PAIN.
Bloodletting was used to balance the four bodily humors: blood (hot/wet), phlegm (cold/wet), yellow bile (hot/dry), and black bile (cold/dry). It was prescribed for fevers that were causing sweats or producing other fluids. It was not prescribed for toothache.
You started out pretty good… but bloodletting doesn’t require blood donars - we make our own blood. I can’t afford the dentist, which is the problem - except that I don’t think it’s a dental issue, I think it’s high blood pressure - which doesn’t require a medical professional in my opinion - just bloodletting.
All in all, at least you actually tried to understand part of my post. Thanks.
All she was saying is that if she was going to be reducing her blood volume by removing blood, she would do it by donating the blood so it would be useful for someone else, rather than dumping it down the drain. You know, not being selfish and all that.
There’s no way blood pressure would be hurting your teeth if you don’t have an underlying dental problem. Which you concede:
So congratulations on your stellar medical diagnosis that you don’t have any dental problems, just a blood pressure problem. :rolleyes:
So you’re in intense pain and coming here to tell us that the way to treat your dental problems is to bleed out rather than go to a dentist? Brilliant.