Preach it. I’ve driven several times from L.A. to Eureka and back, and I often took only one break (only other stops for bathroom needs). Now, I stop at nearly every rest stop . Stop for a leisurely lunch. And I take a overnight stop half-way.
Sounds like an EV won’t work for you. We are lucky because they do for us.
I’m giving real life examples of MY experience with our ICE and our EV. Not hypothetical compare apples to apples and they better be exact sort of shit. Everyone can find examples of why an EV won’t work for them. Folks that need to haul a large trailer should avoid an ICE like our Subaru. Also, they should avoid our EV.
Our EV is so much more comfortable than our Subaru that it would be possible to drive longer days with it, but we don’t like those sorts of drive till you get there trips any longer. I’ve done plenty of them in my life. Same as on my moto: I used to do 500-700 mile days on long vacations and I no longer want to do more than 400 in a day.
I forgot to mention the first time I drove L.A. to the SF Bay Area in my Insight, I didn’t stop for fuel once. I did decide to top off even though I had almost a quarter tank left when I got to my destination. A couple of guys at the gas station were really excited that I made it all that way on less than a tank of gas.
Get really ticked off that I’m wasting 26 mins since I can get 300 miles from a full tank in 4 mins of filling; the majority of my stops, including those that are food, fuel, & bio are significantly < 30 mins.
One of my cars is a roadster; that car is all about the journey & not the destination. Last summer I took a 10 hr drive in it instead of 7 hrs because I chose the ‘avoid interstates’ route. I thoroughly enjoyed both the scenery & the twisty-turny roads going the way I chose instead of the boring interstates but you know what I didn’t do in those extra three hours in the car? Sit around in a parking lot somewhere.
I’m one of those people that EVs don’t work for given the # of long trips I do per year & where I’m going in them (rural); even others on this board have said so.
You’re confusing purpose with process. Charging and refueling have the same purpose, to load the car up with energy to make a journey. The process of doing this is very different.
The evangelizing is only happening because people keep insisting on coming back with the same tired myths about EVs. Do you really think that people are standing at the EV holding the charge handle for 25 minutes? Is that why charging stops are being treated like such an ordeal? Or is it just that EVs don’t meet 100% of all needs, therefore they’re shit?
ICE cars don’t meet 100% of all needs. If I’m going to replace my EV with a different car, it needs to be one that only costs me $0.50 for my 30 mile round trip commute. I also don’t want to make tedious stops on my way home, or wait in the Costco gas line.
Also, because the people that own EVs know a lot more about them than those that don’t. I know a ton more about them and I’ve only owned one a couple months now. I at first said they wouldn’t work for us and was looking into PHEV. But, we realized that a pure EV would do nearly everything we needed and we’d keep our old Subaru for the time being. We’ll see if we actually use it more than 1-2 times per year. We sold my old pickup when I realized I only really needed it a couple times a year and we don’t miss it. We now pay for delivery for things and save a ton of money over having insurance on that truck (we also have a little utility trailer to haul compost and the Tesla can do just fine with that task). What we need is a former EV owner that switched back to ICE to come on and explain why.
I’ve brought this up also: it’s hard for some people to believe that their own road trip habits are not universal. When I am on a road trip, all of my breaks are way shorter than 30 minutes. I’d also echo what was said about sitting at a restaurant still being sitting. I wouldn’t mind walking around a rest area for a few minutes instead of sitting at a restaurant, especially since the exercise would also keep my metabolism up.
Which isn’t to say that a sufficiently high penetration of superchargers would not still make some road trip days more convenient, if I started and ended at a charge location and there happened to be superchargers at every place I stopped and the total distance covered was significantly less than 400 miles in a day.
We’ve had our Tesla for a year and had to stop at a supercharger twice … how inconvienent.
How many times have all y’all had to go to a gas station in the last year?
Sure, but that just tells me that your EV gets more miles per charge than your ICE vehicle does in miles per fillup. It doesn’t mean your EV is inherently better.
Look at it this way- if your ICE car could get 500 per fillup, and your EV got 200, you’d flip your situation.
The big issue for me is that in the past few years, we’ve gone places where charging stations are considerably out of the way.
So we’re talking ~30 minutes detour each way, plus however long it takes to charge the car. And it’s not like those are always conveniently at every restaurant; sometimes they’re at weird places.
I wouldn’t. I hardly ever drive 200 miles from home. When I do, I can typically charge at my destination.
Kind of. It doesn’t matter nearly as much if you start every morning with a full tank. We keep going round and round on this. All of us except the Pitee understand that some vehicles just won’t work for some people’s situations. The Tessie* is a perfect car for me and I had no idea until my specific ignorance was fought.
*Yes, I am a Tesla techbro douche bag now but I own it.
You realize you are now legally obligated to support Elon Musk in all online arguments, great and small? It was in the fine print of the sales document you signed 
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My ICE gets around 330 miles per fill-up before the light comes on and I need gas. My EV doesn’t go that far. However, I have to fill my ICE before we leave (fill-up 1) while my EV is already filled (I mean, you could count the 5 seconds it takes to plug in and unplug in my garage as a fill-up). The Subaru cannot make it to the destination without filling so we fill along the way, eat lunch, walk the dog, and get a coffee (fill-up 2). We fill before we head for home (fill-up 3), and then along the way (fill-up 4) where we also do lunch. Of course, we have to fill not long after getting home so it’s almost a 5 fill trip. Now, we could get by with maybe one less fill on the return but that requires us trying to find gas in Everett/Seattle and we do all we can to not leave the interstate in that area. We’ve done this trip many dozens of times over the last 15 years and we never found a better way to do it in the ICE vehicles we’ve driven.
A lot of folks want to discount the fills before the trip and after and only count the ones along the way. They count. I don’t have to do them at either end of the trip with an EV and I only need one each direction.
Same! We are about a month more into our owning of one and we LOVE it!
Oh shit…I just checked and you are correct! I wonder what happens if I don’t? I imagine the next software update will shut down my car.
Fuck you to Hell, “Bob” “Blaylock.” You’re not a man, you’re a worm. Well on its way to extinction.
It is bad that I had a sore back the other evening and I turned on the seat warmer, reclined a bit and watched a Netflix show in the garage?
Nope! We are loving the over the air integration with those streaming services that comes with Tesla Premium. We listen to Spotify all the time, and the ability to get it natively is great, particularly now that we can listen to books as part of our subscription.
No, I’m saying that your a dick for saying that an EV isn’t a real car. There are probably 200 non-EV cars that don’t meet your needs, either.
I’m sorry you’re too poor for two cars. Most Americans aren’t so destitute. Maybe instead of subscribing to the internet you should save the money, and also get a third job.
My Suburban get 700 miles per fill-up* but I’m still looking forward to getting an EV.
*40 gallon tank.
And that is immutable scientific fact!