No, Bourne would not play with him, or anyone else, he would just get it done.
You’re right. I retract that part. He’d put Bond down fast and hard and make sure he never got up again.
What this thread needs is some clips!
Bond (Craig).
Hmmm… based on the above, I’d say the Bourne has the best moves, but there’s something lacking there - no passion. The man’s a machine, and while a machine will definitely do the job, you need something extra to go the distance. You need to be just a little bit of an animal, and both the Bonds have that in spades.
My vote is for Bond. He has what they used to call “heart.”
On this clip where New Bond is fighting in a stairwell: compare to a very similar scene in BI (sorry, couldn’t find a clip on You Tube) where Bourne fights several armed guys, and takes out the final one by throwing the corpse of a fallen bad guy over the rail, riding him down six stories, and shooting the last guy on the way down. Sorry, New Bond looks like a pussy by comparison.
Daniel Craig v. Matt Damon. Um, why is this even a question? Let me put it this way: Sara Silverman won’t be the only one.
Defintiely Bourne. Bond would have been dead many times over if not for various villian’s overly-elaborate death schemes.
You’re all forgetting the most important part; Bond can’t die. Bourne can, he’s had a trilogy. Bond is part of a continuing franchise. As such, if Bond gets in trouble MGM releases their lion and sics it on Bourne. There’s money at stake, after all!
Well, Bond is replaceable. If James Bond dies, then James Bond replaces him. Even if the first Casino Royale movie was a satire, I did like the premise it presented that “James Bond” was an alias that got handed around to mess with enemy intelligence sifters. “Bond just killed one of our operators in Cairo! Didn’t he get hit by a beer truck in New Braunsfels a month ago?”
Also, saying no gadgets is cheating. Gadgets are part of what Bond is about. Even the relatively straightforward Craig Bond has the crash cart built into his car. You might as well say that they can’t use hand-to-hand battle tactics or pre-paid cell phones either.
But yeah, Bourne is a tough cookie. Depending just on chance, he could win, but even Bond is known to win fights against superior enemies. Given that both are Good Guys™, and Bond is not a stranger to unraveling conspiracies, it seems more likely that they’d eventually end up teaming up after a string of inconclusive fights, and after Bond has been backstabbed by at least one Bond Girl secretly working for Blackbriar.
Bonus points if Bond seduces one of Bourne’s girlfriends (this of course has no effect on whether or not the girl survives, since Bourne tends to build up a peripheral bodycount.
Also, while Bond often uses some particular gadget (like my favorite gadget, the one that uses a series of springs, a hammer, and a small pin to ignite a cartridge of chemicals to propel a piece of carefully-shaped lead through a rifled barrel to impale an enemy some distance away, all while being small enough to conceal in a pocket), he has been shown to kill with anything handy (in the latest movie, he stabs a minor bad guy in the neck with a screwdriver)
So yeah, Batman wins, but only if he prepares.
Bond is really tough but Bourne has superpowers. Look at the parkour scenes in Casino Royal v. those in the last Bourne movie. Bond can barely make it through the construction site while Bourne practicaly flies between the buldings. Bourne would win, easily.
Note: these are the Craig and Damon versions of the character. I’d hold it true for all Bonds, but probably not for the original Bourne, which movie I’ve never seen.
Quantum of Solace-Bond is Jason Bourne except he fucks hotter girls.
Thinking about it a little more, I think Bond’s one chance of survival is if he can talk Bourne out of killing him. Bond is a fast thinker and good at tweaking people’s heads, and Bourne has enough of a conscience remaining that an appeal like that might work. Then, as Raguleader suggests, they’d team up and demolish whatever was left of Treadstone/Blackbriar.
This is all the evidence I need. Bourne takes out another young, fit, brutal, trained killer with nothing but a pen and Bond gets his ass half-kicked by some old bastard, and the only way out is to whip out a knife and did I see a laser watch in there?
If the two were switched around, the trained killer would have shoved Bond’s knife up his rectum (nearly killed 'em), and Bourne would have twisted that old guy’s head off inside of 10 seconds.
Bond regularly takes out henchmen with a single chop to the neck. Bourne always requires an elaborate fight scene to do anything.
My money’s on (any non-Dalton)Bond, for the win.
Easy: according to the laws of narrative the good guy always wins. Bourne used to be a cold, brutal killer, while Bond is not so far off from that, even if he wouldn’t kill innocents, like Bourne did. But bourne after losing his memory is such a do-gooder that he will win any time.
Bourne (before amnesia) < Any Bond < Bourne (after amnesia)
Exactly! It’s just that Bond goes through so many henchmen every movie, they can’t show them all And remember the elevator scene in Quantum, that was pretty effective fighting.
But maybe they might join forces, which would be odd since Bond really only acts on “official” business (he may go about his own ways, but in the end it’s all for the Queen).
That wasn’t “some old bastard”, that was Robert fucking Shaw. You’re comparing Robert Shaw to some random French thug?
Refer to the scene in Bourne Supremacy where Bourne takes out two armed men in something like a second and a half.
Old bastard shortly before the fight (age 35).
Still, as much as I loved the Connery Bonds, I gotta go with Bourne. He’s faster, has reflexes so quick they surprise even him (I think it would have taken Connery three times as long to take out those two cops at the park bench, and it would have been messier), and is a highly trained assassin/killer/close-combat fighter.
Craig’s Bond is close to Bourne in speed and undoubtedly stronger, but he’s less resourceful and less of an automaton in action. Look at what a tough time he had besting that guy in the bathroom at the beginning of Casino Royale. I think Bourne would dispatch him fairly quickly.
I suddenly need to see a Bond-style chase scene there.
Bahaha, a Parkour chase scene there would be the most hilarious thing ever.