Book Review - "Your God Is Too Small"

I was poking around in a Salvation Army store (I had to get a pair of overalls for a costume, dammit, and they had a pair), when I came across this book sitting on the counter by the checkout stand. “Your God Is Too Small: A Guide for Believers and Skeptics Alike”, by J.B. Phillips. Now I’m an atheist, but I was mildly curious what his arguments were going to be and what he was trying to promote. The blurb on the back says Phillips was a canon of the Anglican Church, so I’m pretty sure where is answer was going to lead, but I wanted to see what he had to say. For a buck, I picked it up.

This book is copyright 1952, so it’s not like it’s new or anything. Actually, that date is mildly relevant, in that in a few places he makes some examples and uses things that relate to WWII. It is a little strange to read him saying, for example, people being conditioned by the war to avoid unnecessary travel, and thus remaining cautious about using the train and going on trips. Then I remember the date puts the war as a very recent event, as opposed to something over 60 years ago. Also, he appears to be British (Anglican Church should be a sign).

Anyway, he structures the book with two major parts: Part One is labeled “Destructive”, where he examines his claims about what some people hold as their idea of God and explains why that idea is insufficient for the modern world and human needs. Part Two is labeled “Constructive” and tries to justify what he feels is an “Adequate God” for modern living and human needs. It doesn’t take a Spoiler Alert to know what his answer is going to be, but the devil is in how he frames it.

He starts off his Introductory with

Aw-Oh. Weak foundation, IMO. He continues:

Actually, this seems a fairly reasonable proposition, with the caveat that that are plenty of people who don’t seem to have this struggle.

After a bit more,

Uh huh. Might have to quibble with that “inner dissatisfaction” thing - seems to be projecting.

He then begins his dissection of Gods that are too small.

  1. Resident Policeman - this is the God of your conscience, your inner voice. His argument here is that, on the one hand, conscience is not infallible, and on the other hand, it is unlikely that someone would be moved to worship a nagging inner voice spoilsport.

He gives several examples where he demonstrates that conscience can be too weak or too strong, or can be tweaked to make you feel guilty for things that aren’t really wrong (the aforementioned train travel example) or can make you not feel guilty for things that are wrong (justifying unethical behavior). These arguments are fairly solid.

And he says this isn’t really something we would consider worshipping.

  1. Parental Hangover - this is seeing God like your parents, only more so. He starts by discussing how much of our lives are shaped by our attitude toward our parents from our early years. He points out several adjustment problems and neuroses and how they can be traced to poor parenting (overbearing, too indulgent). He goes on to argue that many people take their attitude towards their parents and transfer them to their conception of God. Being afraid of your father will lead to projecting a God that is fearful. Basically, humans are flawed, and so people will project the flaws of their parents onto God.

Here he also calls out a rather “pathetic” type of Christianity that depends upon guilt and fear.

He also mentions that Christ Himself used the analogy of God as Father, but stresses the difference is recognizing the analogy and the direction it goes. He wants to stress the emotional relationship, the love and interest, as a model for the relationship with God.

  1. Grand Old Man - this is the old bearded man living in Heaven. The problem with this conception, he says, is that people see God as old, and project the way they see old people on him. He’s forgetful and has trouble with technology and modern science. He’s old fashioned. He mentions a psychological test asking people if they think God understands radar, to which they replied “no” because it’s modern and God is old. The point is that you can’t hamper God, that we need a “living contemporary God”.

  2. Meek-and-Mild - His complaint is that meek and mild are lame, milquetoast words that do not adequately describe someone worthy of worship. So he points out that those terms, while often used in hymns and such to describe Jesus, are rather inaccurate for a man who

He said this leads to believers being too afraid to speak their own minds out of a wrong sense of being loving. It also leads to an inaccurate view of “saintliness”. Don’t turn a blind eye to evil or pretend other people are faultless.

  1. Absolute Perfection - this is the idea that since God is perfect and demands loyalty, that means humans have to be 100 percent perfect to live up to his standard. This will affect a certain kind of person who is conscientious, sensitive, imaginative and lacking in self-confidence. It will make him guilty and miserable that he can’t live up to the standard of 100 percent.

  2. Heavenly Bosom - this is the idea that christianity is a form of escapism, of returning to dependence of childhood, of hiding away from the world instead of going out and spreading the word, of being a symbol and having spiritual muscle.

  3. God-in-a-Box - the idea that you have to attend a specific church and “jump through a particular hoop or sign on our particular dotted line” or there’s no God for you. The churchiness, that God is forced into man-made boxes. “Imagining God to be Roman or Anglican or Baptist or Methodist or Presbyterian or what have you.” [Interesting note here: while he speaks of a sense of ecumenicalism, of seeing God as bigger than one denomination, I wonder how he would react to the idea of seeing God via Mormonism, with that extra-biblical stuff, or something like Hindu. Probably not be as accepting.]

  4. Managing Director - “to think that the God who is responsible for the terrifying vastness of the Universe cannot possibly be interested in the lives of the minute specks of consciousness which exist on this insignificant planet.” This is basically recognizing the true breadth and scope of the Universe, and then limiting the God that can fathom the whole as not being able to see the details. It’s a kind of projecting that a man couldn’t know that much, so God can’t. Kind of like a commander-in-chief can’t know all the soldiers in the armed forces individually, God couldn’t possibly know every person.

  5. Second-hand God - relying on fiction (books, films, plays) to create the conception of God. His claim is that there are three main ways that fiction misleads and creates subconsciously an inaccurate conception of God.

a) The tacit ignoring of God and all religious issues: pretending there is no God at all, that men and women have no religious side to their personalities. He speaks of interesting characters making noble sacrifices and achieving utmost happiness and serenity without any reference to God. Conversely, evil characters that in all their lust, cruelty, etc, they have not a streak of conscience. No spiritual force working to make them better.

Amusingly, here he’s criticizing the lack of God and religion in works of fiction, whereas I see too much of the converse.

b)The willful misrepresentation of religion: playing up the negative images of religion, from comic, bigoted, or childishly ignorant of life, to hypocrites. Of showing those as the only images.

c) The manipulation of providence: because the author is crafting the story, he can create whatever kind of providence is required in his story, but that doesn’t bear any resemblance to how reality and life work.

  1. Perennial Grievance - the feeling “God let me down”, and carrying that through the rest of your life. The tragic event or prayer that went unanswered that creates the attitude that God is a disappointment.

His argument is that we need to see God as he is and how he works, not expect him to meet our projections. He falls back on the premise of “free will” that creates the inevitable ills and accidents, that the effect of centuries of humans choosing their own wishes over God’s wishes that is what causes the bad things of living.

  1. Pale Galilean - it’s a line from a poem, but what he means is a God that provides prohibitions but not vitality and courage. A God that is negative and constricting and joyless and stifling.

  2. Projected Image - projecting our own attitudes and flaws upon God.

  3. Assorted - here he drops some quick little one-offs.
    a)God in a hurry: “Evangelize now, reach everybody in this generation, hurry hurry hurry.” God was never in a hurry.

b) God for the elite: mystics, God of direct visions and such. “I’m special”.

c) God of Bethel: this is a God of rules and contracts. Follow the Commandments, obey certain rules, behave certain ways. Old Testament stuff.

d) God without Godhead: God as an “enlightened” and “modern” concept, the Ultimate Bundle of Highest Values but not having an identity, de-personalized. (I would say depersoned.)

e) Gods by any other name: “the State, success, efficiency, money, “glamour,” power, even security.” Giving them the influence and command that should be reserved for God.

Okay, this is getting lengthy. I will start a new post for Part Two.

Regarding Part One, I will say he has some valid points in there about the inadequacy of many of these concepts. They do not create a God that is worthy of worshipping. And do nothing to engender believing in him. What remains to be seen is if Part Two will do any better. :wink:

And the debate is…

Coming in Part 2?

Thanks for posting.

J. B. Phillips was known for making a modern translation of the New Testament, back when the King James Version had a lot fewer rivals. Your God Is Too Small is something of a minor Christian classic, and ( :: checks Amazon.com :: ) is still in print (and well-thought-of by most of the customers who have reviewed it). It’s of roughly the same vintage, and read by the same audience, as C.S. Lewis’s religious non-fiction.

I’ve read it, but it’s been awhile, so I’m interested to read your review, and it may inspire me to go back and re-read it myself.

As an aside, Phillips casually knew Lewis & after Lewis died, had a “sighting” of him.

But if I project “the way I see old people” on God, the result is someone who of course can understand modern technology in general and radar in particular; there are plenty of scientists, and some of 'em are old bearded men. (John O’Keefe turns seventy-five next month, and just won the Nobel Prize this past week.)

OTOH, God is on record as having trouble with them newfangled chariots of iron all them youngsters use nowadays. On his lawn, too !

Sure, in Judges 1. But by Judges 4, he’d gotten the hang of it.

Lo, it shall be written as the SDMB says: God, if He’s prepared.

The summary seems to be able to be boiled down to, “If you’re questioning the existence of God, but don’t want to stop being a believer, here are some arguments I have come up with that will allow you to continue being a believer.”

A Hindu of the same time period could just as well have written a book saying, “Look, we kicked Nazi ass, never got attacked, and used all your all’s war to become rich and claim our own country. Which god is the one you should be worshiping again?”

Making strong, logical arguments in favor of a god or gods is easy, so long as the groundwork for the silly part (namely, the existence of gods) has already been laid.

“Your God Is Too Small.”
“Oh, Yeah? Well, Your God Is Too Big!”
“Well, It Turns Out The Third One Is Juuust Right!”

“We have *330 million *Gods. Suck on it.”

Mostly skimmed the OP past the first few paragraphs. What really gets me about this guy is the mess that his epistemology seems to be. He seems to take it entirely for granted that there is a god (understandable), and then tries to talk about what role this god plays. I’m left wondering if at any point he provides any evidence for any of these concepts he presents. Yeah, none of these gods are worth worshipping. Because none of them show any signs of existing in the first place.

Okay, sorry it took so long to get back to this; real life intervened.

Part Two is where the book shifts direction, from criticizing other “weak” or “erroneous”, i.e. “small”, conceptions of God, and tooking toward how to conceive of God as being big enough.

Now I will preface this by saying my guess about where he would take this could have been toward a more modern, ecumenical, more vague, less God God. But he didn’t do that. Instead, he doubles down on the Christian concept of God. Basically, the point of this book was just to whine at people that he thinks don’t get it. Anyway…

Part Two: Constructive.

Now he starts trying to defend what he calls “An Adequate God”. Adequate is a somewhat amusing choice of a word - it almost sounds like an oxymoron.

  1. God Unfocused - Start by attempting to appreciate the “size” of God.

He goes on to say we can’t stop there with a vague, “unfocused” God that is de-personalized. We can’t just build up a mental concept of virtues like Goodness, Truth, and Beauty and worship a source of Supreme Values. It is not a person that we can relate to or have a relationship with or rely on it as a source of strength and hope or whatever.

In this respect, I give him credit. To my mind, I can’t see the value in conceiving of God as just some depersonalized vast compilation of values. There doesn’t seem to be a point in giving that a label “God” that carries along with it a lot of conceptual baggage. The baggage gets in the way of what you mean, and gives people the wrong impression, through their own preconceptions. It seems more of an attempt to pretend to be one of the group and give yourself something you can think of when other people are talking about God, so you can fit in.

Anyway, he goes on.

Here he seems to be speaking about Humanists and Humanism. There is some truth to what he says, God seems inadequate so move on to something else. He continues his argument to try to show why this won’t work.

He proposes that humanity continues to progress, to develop, and to grow more healthy and wise as a species. We improve psychological methods and whatever, and conquer Nature by scientific knowledge. We resolve all tensions and maladjustments of personal relationships. Then what? Except eventually the Earth will become uninhabitable. It will be destroyed by becoming too cold or by a collision or by the Sun swallowing it or by giant leprechauns (ok, he didn’t say that).

I suppose we can forgive him of not anticipating space travel and eventually the idea of colonization, that one day humanity will find a way to move off Earth before the Earth is destroyed. I suppose I could be generous and extend his argument to the eventual heat death of the universe. At some point, everything that is what we know of humanity and life and being will be consumed in the ultimate end of everything. Then he says

Well, here’s the problem: it doesn’t matter if an ideal is worthy of commanding an adult mind and heart. There is this little matter of determining what actually is, first. If there is no God, then believing in one won’t make any difference to this ultimate end, this destruction of everything and the apparent ultimate meaninglessness that it engenders. “Oh my, there’s no point, because it’s all for naught.”

Sure, if you’re going to believe in a God, then believe in one that is worthwhile. But this argument so far doesn’t really give much to go on.

  1. A Clue to Reality - Here is where he really gets things bass-ackwards, IMO. He argues that the discovery of the atom bomb proves that matter is destructible. Therefore, we live under the shadow of universal disintegration. But because spiritual values are incapable of being weighed and measured, they are incapable of physical destruction.

That’s right, he’s just tried to turn reality on its head and argue that because the universe is made of matter and matter can be destroyed, and therefore the universe seems that it will eventually all be destroyed, there must then be a spiritual reality that is beyond the physical, and because the spiritual is not solid and material, it is impervious to destruction, and therefore more real. :eek:

What a load of hooey. He does nothing to demonstrate the existence of this spiritual world except state that it is the qualities of spirit and personality. Basically, whatever vague notion of an ethereal, dualistic spiritual realm is out there is justification that this realm exists, and therefore, is more real than the hard matter of life.

I keep restating it because it is so mindbogglingly preposterous and unsupported by what he has given us. He goes on.

Okay, I guess I have to count myself as “unimaginative”, as the spiritual sounds fanciful and unreal. Telling me I might die at any moment and the whole of the universe evaporate really doesn’t do anything to make me feel that spiritual realm is any more real than I did before, and it does not send me scampering after some uber-ghost.

And, just for good measure, he restates:

That’s right, he just doubled down on the idea. Hey, I have a counterargument: since what we call the “spiritual” is all imaginary and thought structures, it resides purely in the minds of us material humans, and when all the material humans disappear in a cloud of ultimate evaporation at the poof of the universe, all those imaginings and thought bubbles will evaporate with them. Thus, the “spiritual” is just as destructible as the material world, and your God is nothing more than a fantasy dreamed up by a goober with a fear of dying and daddy issues.


I’m going to take a break from this now to give it time to settle in. This post is getting long already, and we’re only done with the second chapter of this section.

I posted this in GD because the nature of the material. While I am not advocating the message of the book, the book itself is inherently “witnessing”, and witnessing belongs in GD. Furthermore, I am taking issue with much of the content, so am, I guess, “counterwitnessing”.

First off, he was writing this in 1952 when radar was shiny and new. Second, your personal conception of old men may be to look at old scientists, but there’s still a predominant theme of our culture of old people being out of tune with modern life. They can’t set the clock on their VCR. They can’t use the internet. They use their computer floppy drive door as a cupholder. Pop culture is full of examples.

Anyway, it’s a flaw some people have. By no means is he proposing it’s a flaw all people have.

Actually, I would summarize it more as he feels people have an inherent internal need for finding God. This makes them latch on to other things when their understanding of God is flawed. Therefore, he is going to try to point out some common misunderstandings or things that people turn to instead of God, and then he’s going to try to reexplain God and Jesus to make you see that if you actually understand God correctly, it will be natural and wonderful to believe in and worship and follow him. And failing to do that is what causes all the evil in the world. (Oops, I’m jumping ahead.)

And yet, I feel I will be pointing out his failure to do so even with that groundwork assumed. :wink:

Are any like the ones J.B. Phillips talks about, cause those are too small. Why? Because book.

You aren’t witnessing cause you don’t agree with the position of the author. If you want a debate then, pro tip: Pick a few of the more solid ones and state your contrary position.

What you wrote is a blog entry of your musings, which belongs in MPSIMS. No one has time for this there either though.

I read it years ago, but my memory was that, subtitle aside, the book is aimed at people who either already are Christians, or who want to be, but have certain specific, largely spritual frustrations – not as a general-purpose, start-from-square-one apologetic for people who are already contented athiests.

Then he shouldn’t get all up in my face by declaring that My God Is Too Small; for all he knows, I was picturing God as, say, like unto Albert Einstein circa 1952.

(Granted, that’s less a beard and more a glorious mustache, but, y’know, still.)

This comes closest to my view, but I don’t project that way. I think if there’s a god capable of creating the universe, then it’s much too advanced to empathize with humans, much like we don’t really concern ourselves with the lives of amoebae. God’s not a commander-in-chief; if anything, God is like a scientist who occasionally looks through the cosmic microscope at our Petri dish of a solar system. He sees us microbes being fruitful and multiplying, decides he did a good enough job of keeping this ant colony self-sustaining, then moves on to other things.

It’s not that he’s incapable of seeing the details… he just doesn’t consider us interesting enough to monitor on a continual basis, much like none of us would be willing to observe moldy bread 24/7.

That’s just one way your God could be too small. Since it isn’t, there’s still plenty of others.

Different analogy, same result. To Phillips, God is intimately interested in the lives of every one of us bread mold cells.