Boy in Police hugging photo dead :(

[Slash1972]

I’m not normally the feeling having type, but this just made me sad:

Boy in viral 2014 protest photo among 8 family members dead in California cliff crash

[Lancia]

Ok, I don’t get this. First the article says:

Devonte Hart, 15, his five siblings and adoptive parents were pronounced dead after the vehicle plummeted 100 feet off an ocean overlook on the Pacific Coast Highway, about 150 miles north of San Francisco, police said.

Two paragraphs later it says:

The bodies of Devonte, Hannah Hart, 16, and Sierra Hart, 12, have not been located.

How do they know the other kids were in the car? How can they be pronounced dead when they haven’t been located? Maybe the kids stayed behind in Washington or were left behind at the last motel or maybe they managed to escape the wreckage alive and are curled up on the beach a mile away.

The BBC is reporting that he’s missing; they don’t say for sure that he’s been killed.

It’s very sad, but it looks like there’s a chance three of the kids could still be alive. The cops don’t seem to think so but they aren’t telling why. Very strange.

[k9bfriender]

I’m just impressed that, in the tragedy, the comments section is full of people hating on the family because the parents were lesbian women.

[Shodan]

@Lancia

Ok, I don’t get this. First the article says:

Two paragraphs later it says:

How do they know the other kids were in the car? How can they be pronounced dead when they haven’t been located? Maybe the kids stayed behind in Washington or were left behind at the last motel or maybe they managed to escape the wreckage alive and are curled up on the beach a mile away.

The BBC is reporting that he’s missing; they don’t say for sure that he’s been killed.

It’s very sad, but it looks like there’s a chance three of the kids could still be alive. The cops don’t seem to think so but they aren’t telling why. Very strange.

Very strange indeed.

Regards,
Shodan

[bobot]

@k9bfriender

I’m just impressed that, in the tragedy, the comments section is full of people hating on the family because the parents were lesbian women.

I hovered over the link long enough to see that the link went to Fox news. Your observation about the comments there reinforces the reason I didn’t click it. The story is being reported all over the place, here are some links:

Family of 8 that’s feared dead after SUV plunged off cliff had troubled home...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/family-killed-cliff-plunge-free-spirits-troubled-54087958

No skid marks, 3 children still missing, a visit from child services:...

[nearwildheaven]

I just came from another board where it’s being discussed in more detail. It sounds like CPS had been alerted to the family because of possible (likely?) abuse; among other things, some of the kids had knocked on neighbors’ doors begging for food.

[Machine_Elf]

@k9bfriender

I’m just impressed that, in the tragedy, the comments section is full of people hating on the family because the parents were lesbian women.

I’m hating on them because they weren’t wearing seat belts. :smack:

[Darren_Garrison]

@nearwildheaven

I just came from another board where it’s being discussed in more detail. It sounds like CPS had been alerted to the family because of possible (likely?) abuse; among other things, some of the kids had knocked on neighbors’ doors begging for food.

One of the stories I read had the kids asking neighbors for permission to hide food outside their house because hunger was used as a punishment.

[aceplace57]

I hope the recent CPS visits didn’t trigger the parents into doing something rash. The old abuse case had been used against them after the hugging photo went viral.

Imho There’s a bit of paranoia in their activist activities. Not enough to raise any alarm. But, in hindsight…

Very tragic case

[aceplace57]

They had a stressful couple years.
https://www.google.com/amp/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/wireStory/child-welfare-officials-visited-family-drove-off-cliff-54079216

Zippy Lomax, a Portland photographer who knew the Harts, told the Oregonian/Oregonlive.com that the reaction to the 2014 photo overwhelmed them, with negative attention focused on the multiracial family with lesbian parents.

“They kind of closed off for a while, honestly,” Lomax told the newspaper. But she added that “Jen and Sarah were the kind of parents this world desperately needs.”

[Slash1972]

@nearwildheaven

I just came from another board where it’s being discussed in more detail. It sounds like CPS had been alerted to the family because of possible (likely?) abuse; among other things, some of the kids had knocked on neighbors’ doors begging for food.

Just makes the story sadder.

[elfkin477]

There are so many, and contradictory, stories being reported. I’ve read everything from the police thinking it was an accident, to the police being sure it was deliberate because they’d refused to open the door when CPS tried to visit hours earlier that same day.

[Tom_Tildrum]

News reports are saying the speedometer was pinned at ninety, and the authorities are saying (without specifics so far) that there is reason to believe it was intentional.

[Sunny_Daze]

I believe some of the other details were no skid marks or other indications that there were attempts to correct the course to avoid going over.

[aceplace57]

@Tom_Tildrum

News reports are saying the speedometer was pinned at ninety, and the authorities are saying (without specifics so far) that there is reason to believe it was intentional.

Thelma & Louise

[aceplace57]

I wouldn’t be surprised if they find this dvd in the family’s home.

Thelma & Louise:Ending Scene

[Lucas_Jackson]

@k9bfriender

I’m just impressed that, in the tragedy, the comments section is full of people hating on the family because the parents were lesbian women.

Are you saying that’s a good thing?

[Lucas_Jackson]

@Tom_Tildrum

News reports are saying the speedometer was pinned at ninety, and the authorities are saying (without specifics so far) that there is reason to believe it was intentional.

Surely driving off of a cliff makes this irrelevant. Regardless of how fast they were actually going as soon as the tires left the pavement or dirt and were free in the air the speedometer would have shot up.

[Slash1972]

@Lucas_Jackson

Are you saying that’s a good thing?

Pretty sure he is being sarcastic.

[HurricaneDitka]

@Lucas_Jackson

Surely driving off of a cliff makes this irrelevant. Regardless of how fast they were actually going as soon as the tires left the pavement or dirt and were free in the air the speedometer would have shot up.

Only if one still has the accelerator depressed. It’s sounding more and more like a deliberate murder-suicide to me (but that’s just based on what’s been posted in this thread). Either way, a sad day.