Breaking Bad 5.8 "Gliding Over All"

I think it’s entirely possible that Hank can make the connection that Walt was the cook responsible for the Blue without making the leap that he’s also the guy pulling the strings on all the murder and mayhem. In fact, it’s likely that Hank has no idea that Mike is dead, and he likely thinks that it was Mike behind the prison murders. For all Hank knows, his mild mannered brother-in-law somehow got sucked into cooking meth for some very bad guys, and his thought process at this point might be more geared towards “saving” Walt.

I could see him trying to confront Walt, maybe try to get him into some kind of witness protection deal. Of course, if Hank somehow figures out just how much shit Walt has actually pulled, all bets are off. I think he’d take him down hard, consequences be damned.

And it should be a classic scene if/when Hank figures out it was Walt’s money that paid for his rehab.

Oh, that would be really interesting. Hank might assume that Walt was a cook for Fring like Gale, and that now he’s a cook for Mike or someone else big. And then it will slowly dawn on him as he investigates that Walt is the big guy now. Or it won’t be a slow realization, but a giant smack in the face realization. Could be really good.

Also, this isn’t entirely related, but this video from Cracked.com is somewhat about Breaking Bad, and I thought it was funny so I thought I’d share it.

That makes sense. Hank may try to rationalize it like that.

I’m already hypothesizing a scenario where Walt’s back is up against the wall and he tries to convince Hank that Fring and Mike were holding him hostage and forcing him to cook under the threat of annihilation of his family. He could say he got in real deep one night at the card table and they offered him an easy out, but that they forced him to keep cooking even after the debt was ameliorated, because nobody had ever seen product like his before. That stunt he pulled at the dinner table after drinking too much wine may come back to bite him in the ass if he does try to take that tack, though.

Damn—the next 10 months are gonna be tough. :frowning:

I remember a scene in which Hank was shown playing with Holly and being totally in love with her. I think that at some point she is either going to be put in danger or killed, and Hank will go nuclear on Walt in response, blaming him for putting his family in danger.

Thinking about this, the whole “Walt was forced into it” scenario really doesn’t fit with the inscription:

I thought of that, but Walt could make up some plausible explanation, like he befriended Gale because he was surrounded by criminals and Gale was the only normal person he could reach out to. Gale reciprocated the friendship because he felt sorry for Walt, or thought he had a cute ass or something.

Hank may not take the leap all the way to associating Walt with Heisenberg. He’ll first have to find out what the relationship was between Walt and Gale, they were two chemists, perhaps Walt will think of some excuse that distracts Hank long enough to get to the big conclusion. But we know the story’s going somewhere down that road, and they’ve been good at adding twists and turns into that road.

Were you watching all original airings? (I was)

Anybody else remember Gale giving Walt a book or other gift? Were you watching original airings?

ETA: Just thought, maybe it was in a mini webisode?

From what I can remember of Season 3 Hank knew Heisenberg as the master chemist cook, not as the criminal boss. It would be reasonable for Hank to think that Walt is Heisenberg, but that there is some other criminal boss on top of him ordering the killings.

I think in some ways this episode was a little rough - Walt decided to get out of the business very quickly even though he was so totally committed to it all through this season, and maybe it was too fast - but the way the events played out was very true to form. Walt finally regained a little of his humanity in this episode, chose his family over his meth empire for the first time in ages, and of course right after he did that, Hank finally figures out the truth. I can’t help hearing that watch again: tick tick tick tick tick tick…

We’ve had a lot of discussion over whether or not Walt could redeem himself or whether he would continue to grow more and more cruel and ruthless. I don’t think he can necessarily redeem himself - even if he were really and truly sorry, he’s still directly responsible for something like 20 deaths and that doesn’t take into account his partial responsibility for the plane crash in season two, and no one could make amends for all that - but like I said, just after ordering 10 more murders in one amazing stroke, Walt did seem to get his humanity back somewhat. He went to play with his baby at Hank and Marie’s house, Skyler showed him what his work had amounted to, and I did think he was supposed to be wounded when Hank called him a monster. (I remember Tony Soprano was deeply hurt by a similar comment.) So after all of that, he pulled back. The critic at the AV Club thought there was another element to that decision: Walt had won and all of a sudden the job wasn’t so exhilarating anymore. I think I said last week that he’d come to see his own life as sort of an action movie, and just after his big success, it turned back into a job. Not so great after all.

As soon as Walt said he was out my girlfriend said something like “Do you think he means it?” and I’m guessing about half the audience said the exact same thing. I think we were supposed to take Walt’s “I’m out” as sincere. It’s no longer possible to take the man at his word and I was certainly ready for an even worse betrayal of Skyler, but in context I think he was ready to walk away. Maybe that wasn’t literally his last day on the job, but I felt he did mean that he was getting out. Maybe Declan and Lydia would have been unhappy, but they both made a bunch of money off Walt and Declan would no longer have to compete with the blue meth, so I suspect he would have let it go. (I agree the fact that they didn’t clarify any of this was confusing.) But by then - even though I’d said a bunch of times that I didn’t think Hank was going to figure it out until the middle of the 2013 season - you could tell what was coming because this is Breaking Bad, and whenever the characters think they’ve got the world at their fingers, some horribly ironic new complication appears. The poolside scene was amazingly suspenseful in its own way. It echoed a lot of scenes from the first couple of seasons and let them come to the viewer’s mind without doing anything showy. It was almost like all the terrible events of the last few seasons never happened. Walt finally did the quote-unquote right thing, and you could tell it was going to collapse. I’d noticed the copy of Leaves of Grass earlier in the episode and didn’t remember Walt reading the book, but when Hank reached for it I knew it was going to turn out to be Gale’s. What an ending. Flashbacks are usually clumsy, I agree, but seeing Walt in that dark blue room and the last words of the season being “You got me!”

I think that scene only works, only matters, if Hank understands that Walt is Heisenberg. Its impact would evaporate if the next episode starts and Hank thinks Walt is just a cook rather than the man he’s been chasing for most of the series. Hank knows Gus was in charge of the meth ring, he knows Gus is dead, he knows the Mexican cartel is in chaos, and he knows Heisenberg is still in business and that someone just eliminated all the prisoners who knew about Gus’ operation. The book also provides an implied link between Walt and Gale’s murder, not just the meth operation. Hank doesn’t have proof, but if he knows Walt is Heisenberg is then it will be much easier to find real evidence to confirm it. A lot of hints were floating around in his mind and now he can connect many of them. Knowing how many people Walt has harmed, I have trouble believing Hank would let him get away. I do think it’s possible that even if Hank takes down Walt, there will be enough of a cloud of suspicion around Hank that it would ruin his career anyway, and his success would also bring about his undoing. That’s the general way of the BB world.

That last scene between Walt and Jesse was terrific. The relief on Jesse’s face and the gun came out of nowhere and they completely changed the meaning of the scene. For Walt it was restitution and some awkward small talk; Jesse feared for his life. Interesting too that Walt did not understand why they kept the shitty RV, because I thought I got it - it was attachment, not inertia. They kept the RV because represented their dreams and their early successes. That scene was also a remind of how shellshocked Jesse is: he’s not getting high as far as we can see, but he’s still sitting around the house alone with all the blinds drawn and the phone unplugged.

Here’s a thought: now that Hank knows, might he talk to Skyler about it? Will he assume she’s an innocent and try to get her to help him catch Walt? And if he does, what will Skyler do? Once the Whites find out that Hank is onto them, they have little hope of escape. I do think the ricin will find itself near Hank’s coffee at some point next year, maybe in Skyler’s hand.

Man, only eight episodes to go! And nothing until next year!

This is my $0.02 CAN on what the first scene from this season’s episode 1 is going to be all about.

I predict Walt’s cancer is back and terminal. I think many people somewhat agree about this. He has hair again because he’s done, he doesn’t want to take any more drugs and prolong his life. I think he had an epiphany and realized he has been a bad man over the previous 12 months.

I also think Walt will be “on the lamb”. He’ll have a metric shit pile of money, but will be on the run.

I also predict Walt bought the M-60 because he is going to ask Jessie to take him out with it. I believe Walt will arrange some kind of a meeting with everyone tied to the Blue Meth (minus Jessie) and have Jessie take them all out to “tie-up” all of the loose ends and close the Blue Meth ring.

I think Walt thinks once he (and everyone involved with the Blue Meth) is gone, his family can be truly safe.

Not sure how Hank fits into this.

I also think Walt will tell Jessie everything (Jane, poisoning the kid, shooting Mike, etc.) so that Jessie would be mad enough at Walt to go through with the M-60 plan.

You heard it here first folks!

Even if that’s not how it plays out, it’s still the best thing on TV.

MtM

Quick question, though—I’ve never been clear on this despite a couple of rewatchings and fairly close attention to our discussions. Is it clearly established that Walt is in ABQ in the opening scene of this season?

Can’t agree with this. There’s a lot of drama to had from Hank at first thinking Walt is a cook that got caught up way over his head then slowly learning exactly what Walt has been responsible for. There’s eight episodes to play out, and one way it could progress is Hank first offering Walt a way out (turning witness), with Walt playing along with tales of his sinister higher up and then Hank realising he’s being played and turning on him.

If Hank realises straight away Walt is Heisenberg and the mastermind behind everything, where do they have to go? I can’t see how you can make that last 8 episodes.

Agreed. Remember the scene when Walt was in the RV before Jesse got there with Hank on his tail? Walt was looking around, touching things and smiling at the memories. He had a real affection for that piece of shit RV like many of us have for the first crappy used car that we bought.

I can’t either but that’s the beauty of the show.

He’s probably in or near Albuquerque, but it wasn’t firmly established, and during the episode I somehow I picked up the impression that he was in California. He made up a story about driving 30 hours from New Hampshire, and we know the gun dealer is a local because we’ve seen him before.

No, this hasn’t been established. But I’m sure it’s somewhere in the South West. Jim Beaver sold him the hardware, I don’t know how large of a territory a gun salesman would have.

But where he is really has no bearing on my theory. Sure his car had New Hampshire (I think, I’m Canadian excuse me if I can’t remember all of your state motto’s!) plates but that doesn’t mean anything. Look at any IHOP parking lot in any city and I’m sure you’ll see at least 1 out of state license plate.

I’m sure when he bought his fake ID, he got a car along with his drivers license. Because like I predicted he’ll be on the lamb :cool:!

MtM

Hank needs to get proof and Walt needs to find a way to stop Hank from catching him. I think there are enough other moving pieces that they can fill eight more episodes. Given the facts about Walt’s new wealth, Gus’ murder, the fact that the blue meth is still out there, and of course Walt’s drunken bragging about Gale being a mere student, I think it’d be hard for Hank to look at the evidence and think Walt is anything but the mastermind. His competition keeps getting eliminated.

That reminds me: before this episode I had been thinking about the Madrigal Electromotive connection and how we hadn’t heard very much about it since the first or second episode of this mini-season. So it was good to see that come back and pay off.

on the lam.