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And yet they aren’t. It’s just a fact of the world that, by and large and in the West, anti-vaxxers tend to be middle-class kooks from London or California ; while Muslims are brown (or black) people. And caricatures of Muslims always, always, always reflect that - it’s turbans, djellabas and scimitars all the way down.

Yes. See the youtube link in my previous post for an inkling of why that is.

I’m not saying you can’t do it, ever, at all, under any circumstances.
I’m saying you want to be self-aware and check yourself before you let loose a Muslim joke, or a rape joke, or a gay joke, or a black joke, or any kind of joke that makes light of people who already suffer from social discrimination in their daily lives.

And no, Virginia, anti-vaxxers don’t. Nobody was ever fired, or assaulted, or evicted, or harassed in their schools and workplaces for believing in woo.

I won’t even dignify that with a response.

I’m quite aware of what I say. No religion is sacred. I don’t give a shit if it’s a minority religion in a country. I bet you don’t get up in arms if anyone criticizes scientology, right? Oh right, mostly white people believe in that, so it’s cool. You put a fucking racial qualifier on what beliefs are okay to be mocked. If you can’t see how that makes you a fucking race obsessed, race baiting asshole, you’re blind. I don’t give a fuck about race. I’ve not said one thing in this thread that criticizes anyone based on race, nor any racial group. I’ve actually gone out of my way to separate race as any sort of issue in this at all. And yet you respond to everything I say with race-obsessed nonsense. “Oh, we can criticize these nonsense views because they’re held by mostly white people, but you can’t criticize these equally nonsense views in the same way, because they’re primarily held by non-white people”

Fuck your fucking race-based view of the world. I don’t give a fuck what race anyone belongs to. None of my comments or criticisms have anything to do with race. I am far more egalitarian than you, simply because race doesn’t matter to me, while your entire fucking world is viewed through race-based nonsense.

Gays are a race ? Women are a race ?

Anyway, piss off you self-righteous twat.

It’s a ‘shitty Muslim countries’ list, not whether religion is responsible for them being hell-holes. Although in cases like Iraq, Iran (pretty much any Middle Eastern country, really) and Pakistan I’d say they most undoubtedly are. And I’d hazard a guess that if you’re female you’re going to be pretty oppressed in pretty much any of those.

As for Turkey - it’s pretty clearly on the road to being a de-facto one-party Islamic State and I wouldn’t holiday there let alone live there. The rule of law and freedom of the press being an important thing. Turkey currently has neither. It has a President who uses force to over-ride both of those whenever he sees fit.

It certainly wouldn’t be on my list of ‘great Muslim countries’.

It is an ignorant bigot list containing non muslim country, which makes this more funny.

I am not oppressed at all and you bigots can spare us the fake concern about muslim women as the pretended excuse to give justificaiton for your hatred of our culture and our religion. It does not fool us.

Just to be clear, are you claiming Muslim women do not endure terrible repression in some (not all) Muslim counties?

Just to be clear I do not think these people any real concern for us and the fake bigot concern for muslim women is nothing but a Burqa over bigotry and hatred which is greatly based on ignorance and hate. They can go to hell. as can those who assert the implications about thigns we did not say or write.

It’s a PEW Poll list actually - by Muslim population over 90% and in descending order. Which of those countries do you believe does not have a Muslim population of over 90%? They need to be corrected.

There is no question to which the answer begins with ‘God says’ and there is no political or social issue for which the answer is found in any religious book so yeah - I’m pretty contemptuous of all sorts of places where these things hold and justifiably so as far as i’m concerned.

I’m not that keen on western secular cultures either, just for different reasons.

Do get back to me when women stop being oppressed in Islam. In return I’ll give you a heads up when it happens in the UK. I guess that might be when my friend can come out of hiding from her family or any man can accompany her through Birmingham New Street Station without fearing her brothers will kill him on sight.

And spare me the ‘no true Muslim’ hand-waving.

Link?

Just out of interest, how do you tell the difference between fake concern and genuine concern?

I doubt this.

it is not a question ofbelief, it is a fact - south sudan does not even have 10% muslim population. I do not think your source was pew at all.

You can spare me your faux concern for muslims of any kind, this fake cover for bigotry does not convince us.

It is from Pew, I posted the link a couple of posts up.

The only thing wrong is South Sudan - I suspect **tagos **went to Wiki and sorted the countries by the % of muslim population - the South Sudan that way shows up on top, even though it has no information on the percentage of muslims. All the others are correct.

That’s not even remotely true.

Nurses fired for resisting flu vax. Many hospitals have a policy of demanding nurses get the flu shot or wear masks. I presume you’re okay with making sure some idiot anti-vax moron is not treating local cancer patients when she has the flu?

Am I even allowed to point that the Islamic media has hardly refrained from using some rather vile imagery of Jews over the years?

They weren’t fired for “believing in woo”. They were fired for refusing to perform an essential function of their job.

They were rightfully fired because they acted on their woo belief system. There’s no reason not to get a flu shot unless it is truly medically contraindicated.

… yes. I think you might be unclear on what you’re arguing here.

Um… yes ? Because cancer patients undergoing chemo treatments are immunocompromised and the flu could, yanno, *kill them *?

But moooom all my friends get to make discriminatory jokes !

The Pan-European League is hardly “media”. But the other stuff is pretty disturbing.

So you’re a Muslim woman living in a Muslim country? You should start an “ask the” thread.