Especially as the whole “it’s a special time thing” means that it is a time for special reflection and forgiveness.
If the parkland students used this “holy week” as a time to forgive the NRA and gun manufacturers and politicians whose only concern is increasing gun sales, at the cost of people’s lives, that would be an appropriate use of the phrase. (Not that I think they should.)
To use this special time to begrudgingly apologize for shitty behavior is just furthering shitty behavior.
I really don’t get this line of attack. Here is the thing about David Hogg - when he applied to colleges he was a pretty ordinary high achieving kid. There are tens of thousands of high school Seniors with 4.0 GPAs and decent test scores who are student leaders. I’m guessing that almost every high school in the country with a graduating class of over 200 has at least two or three kids who matched David Hogg on paper in December 2017. Far too many for them all to be accepted by every top tier school in the country. Unless you have an incredible story to go along with good grades and test scores and extracurricular activities (or your Dad donates a building), no one is a shoe in at these schools.
All this tells me is that there are a ton of potential David Hoggs out there. Kids who are doing fine - even great - but not “oh my God, Harvard will accept you in a minute” who haven’t faced something that ignites passion and gives them a voice.
And it tells all those kids (some of them my daughter’s friends - who didn’t get into Vassar or Cornell with 4.0s and decent test scores and student leadership on their resumes) that rejection letters from colleges don’t mean you aren’t exceptional.
David Hogg now has an incredible story (one that I’m certain he wishes he didn’t have) - and probably every school he applied to who didn’t accept him is kicking themselves that they don’t get to say “that’s our future student!” And now he’s probably the application Harvard would accept in a minute. But there are lots of kids like him out there.
Reading the comments, anywhere, is generally a bad idea if you want to maintain the fiction of a noble and rational humanity.
Laura Ingraham. I’m not sure about Laura Ingram but Lauren Ingram is an Australian blonde woman who woke up to a social media lynch mob on her virtual lawn the other day wondering “WTF did I do?”.
Which line of attack didn’t you get? Laura’s? She called him a whiner on her twitter page after he organized a march that contradicted her beliefs. He didn’t fire off any shots at her, but she felt compelled to make this statement to her 2 million followers. Why? To me it seems like an ad hominem attack and little more than calling him a snowflake.
As for the rest of your post…
He said, nearly exactly that, already
I check in at Breirbart and Fox News once or twice a week to read comments, to see what’s up in the Wingnut World, and to get my blood pressure up to a nice toasty level (cheaper than cocaine and cigarettes).
The comments I’ve been reading about David and Emma are as vitriolic as any I’ve seen, including those about Mooshell Obummer, that big fat n——- lady who’s really a man, because of course the Kenyan Usurper is homosexual Mooslim. (Seriously, Michelle O seems to get hit harder than either Hilary or Obama.)
Saying they should have been shot down along with their 17 friends is only the tip of the shitberg.
Thank your for the lists Mind’s Eye Watering, I will be forwarding it to my friends.
Yes, Laura’s - it seems counterproductive. She’s functionally pointing out that David Hogg isn’t all that exceptional. Which I think is rather stupid for her to point out to all the rest of us unexceptional people.
Conservatives have been just nasty for years. I’ve been repeatedly disappointed over that span of time that more Americans weren’t as outraged as I’ve been. They’ve been getting away with trolling, harassing, and shaming people for years. And they now have the ultimate troll in the White House.
What I think we’re beginning to see now is the rise of a new generation that is ready to make a sudden, sharp, and immediate impact on American democracy, perhaps in a way similar to the way Baby Boomers did when they came of age in the 1960s.
I wonder if this will be the start of another campaign in the US culture war; If businesses are at risk of getting bad PR/boycotts when they advertise on a controversial commentator’s show, will they have to pick sides? Will the usual advertisers simply withdraw from advertising on anything controversial? If new advertisers (of the type who aren’t afraid of being boycotted by those who disagree with the commentator) move in, who will those advertisers be? How will those advertisers influence the commentators?
To some, being mean and belittling to Others is both its own reward and a factional rallying cry.
Advertisers already stay away from controversial things. The reason you don’t hear swearing on network TV after prime time, or non-premium cable channels at all, is not because of the FCC, but because of advertisers not wanting their products associated with “filthy language”. And the reason for that is because consumers don’t want to buy things that are associated with it.
If advertisers don’t want their products associated with filthy commentary, because they have been informed by the consumers that they don’t want to be associated with it, then that’s the way things have always worked. It is no more or less influence than it ever has been, and it is not the advertisers that are initiating the pressure, it is the consumers.
It really is more than just advertising, it is support. They are giving money to Laura Ingraham in order for her to continue making her commentary on national TV. If I buy a product form one of these advertisers, some small fraction of the purchase price ends up in her pocket. Buying products advertised on her show is supporting her. There are two ways for me to prevent my money going into her pocket. Either refuse to buy the goods and services that are advertised on her show, or get advertisers to stop advertising on her show.
This.
You may feel all proud of your fancy “alternative media consultant” job title, but these kids have lived there their whole lives. They have been known to sleep with their phones in their hands less they miss an important tweet. Should you decide to fight them on their home ground, you have as much chance as a Harkonnen scout fighting the Fremen on the dunes of Arrakis.
As k9bfriender said, they always pick sides, and while they don’t always shy away from controversy, they do demand all controversy be within bounds and gauged to not piss off their biggest markets.
Well, the righties are about to find out what it’s like when advertisers decide you’re not their biggest market, and it’s worth pissing you off to avoid pissing off some group that’s more important.
There are.
Furthermore, most CEOs don’t hail from Ivy League colleges. Most come from state schools. Admittedly, a lot of them got MBAs from the Ivies. Very different from Japan and France, where a huge proportion of the elite come from Tokyo University or Sorbonne.[sup]1[/sup]
[sup]1[/sup]Admittedly my info on France is mangled and dated.
Remember though that this is roughly the same generation that gave us 4Chan, The_Donald, Kek, Pepe, “meme magic”, a good portion of the alt-right, probably the bulk of MRA and Incel presence on the internet, and a lot of other crank beliefs and chaos. Remember also that Donald Trump is “the Twitter president” and arguably was elected in large part due to the influence of social media. I think it can work both ways, and as part of the first generation to use Facebook - I was 19 in 2005 back when you had to be a college student to use it - I can tell you there are plenty of people in their 20s and 30s on Facebook who are not Harkonnens and they’re not Fremen, they’re worms, and they will use the terrain of social media to fuck people over and spread bullshit, not for any ethical purposes.
*Ingraham. Laura Ingram is a different person, who’s trying to get people to quit hate tweeting her.
It’s only a more obvious proof of what a lying stinking hypocrite she always has been. Holy Week, my ass. Fuck her, fuck her fans and fuck her ilk. To hell with “Doctor” Laura. Stinking phoney.
Proverbs 26:23
Like an earthen vessel overlaid with silver dross Are burning lips and a wicked heart.
Matthew 23:27
"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean.
Matthew 18:6
“Whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believed in me, it were better for him that millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.”
etcetera, etcetera, etcetera
Yep, sorry about the misspelling. My bad.
My mom used to listen to her sometimes when I was a teenager, back when she was a bit more conservative now she is far more liberal. (My mom, I mean, not Dr. Laura.) Anyway I remember her snide and cruel tone of voice and how hateful she always sounded, like a little wich, just snide and condescending to the max. I am not surprised to hear she has done something very vile, tasteless and low-class.
I thought SteveG1 was kidding but it looks like he’s mixing her up with an older Laura, Dr. Schlessinger, whose most recent dash with fame was when she screamed “NIGGER” a bunch of times while on the line with a female black caller, this was during Obama’s first term, to demonstrate a point of the unjust double standards in this country.
The one who goes by “Doctor Laura” is a different Laura. She does play for the same team, though. She’s probably in a position to forward your regards to Miss Ingraham.