Brotherhood of the Wolf (Spoilers)

Too big to be a lion, or a lioness.

It was as big as a truck!

It did not have yellow fur like a lion. It had course black fur.

It didn’t roar, it bellowed.
I thought at first it was some kind of boar, and it’s bellow sounded like a “mooo.,” so I was also thinking Wildebeast, but then when the Lone Ranger came out and said it was a bear, I pretty much took it at face value.

He is a naturalist. He saw it. He killed it. He oughtta know.

You people keep saying “Lion, lion” but you give no evidence.

It was a bear, like “Baloo” in Jungle Book.

It did not have black fur. When the thing is dying and he looks into the beasts eyes you can clearly see the lions fur. It isn’t too big it’s the armour that makes it look that size. How do you know he said “bear” you looked at the dubbed version? That could be a fuck up with the translation. It also sounded like a lion BTW. Are you sure you actually looked at this film :stuck_out_tongue:

Like it or not the thing was a lion.

No, no. It was a lion. They say that Jean-Francois lost his arm to a lion while hunting in africa, then later the old guy says that he brought back it’s cubs and killed all but the strongest one, training it to be vicious.
It also had yellow fur - you can see it when the main character pets it near the poor thing’s eye, right before it kills it.

I watched the DVD, though - last night. In the deleted scenes commentary, the director mentions that there is an extented version and a director’s cut version in addition to the version on the DVD that we rented. There was absolutely no mention of bear at all, that I heard in the copy we watched (in french, with subtitles). They had cut the part with the lion’s tracks - it was in the deleted scenes.

I thought that the effects really were sub-par, and the movie was certainly too long. But it was okay, for all of that.

That’s pretty fucking odd, since there are no bears in Africa, and arguably never have been. I think there are a few possible specimens of the African bear, each about 4 million years old.

There is the legend of the Nandi bear, from east Africa. Hairy fish, Nandi bear, what’s a little more cryptozoology.

Maeglin:

I know. That’s very disturbing. How could there be such an error in a film that was stood so strongly on its accuracy.

I mean they historically represented the Iroquois Kung Fu, and magic Indian Smoke that all Indians keep in their bracelets, and then there was the historically accurate African Segmented Whip Sword, and then the accurate representation of Frenchmen leaping off of 40 foot cliffs, flipping in midair and landing on their feet on slabs of stone.

I can’t imagine how such an accurate film could make such a blatant zoological error, but there it is. I guess it will have to remain a mystery.

Scylla, you’re forgetting the Vatican’s assassin whose cover is a mystical sorceress working in a bordello. Based on a true story, of course.:slight_smile:

In the interests of accuracy, if I’m remembering correctly, it wasn’t Iroquois kung fu, but Mohican kung fu. While superficially similar, the styles are distinct.

I saw this movie over the weekend, I liked the one they showed at the beginning and at the end but the extra film they stuck in the middle was awful dull. :wink:
I have one question though. Why in the ever loving’ fuck did the bad guy keep his arm hidden? Was it all part of his diabolical plan or was it just part of his general moon barking craziness? Also, why didn’t he cut his flipping nails? That was just nasty!
And as much as I hate to disagree with Scylla , I’m pretty sure it was a lioness dressed up in weird spiked armor. Either that or the nimblest bear ever!

It was way too big to be a stupid lion.

And why do you say Lioness?

How do you know what sex it is.

And in the picture of its eye at the official website it has greyish black hair like a wolf or a bear or a boar, not yellow like a lion.

The wicker armor made the lioness look bigger?

Yeah right! You could hide a whole pride of lions in that armor.

It was huge. It filled up the whole house.

Bear. Bear. Bear.
Where the hell are you guys coming up with lioness?

I’ve seen the movie twice now. Once in the theatre, once on DVD.
And it doesn’t have to be dubbed. As soon as the DVD started in English, I screamed, “No way in hell,” and switched it to its original French with English subtitles.

And it was 100% a lion. Jean-Francois (sorry, can’t do fancy characters) was attacked by a lion in Africa, and he brought the lioness back, trained the strongest cub and killed off the rest. Not only that, but it looked like a lion, had a lion’s eyes, had a lion’s tongue and had a lion’s gait. Never heard of a cat-eyed bear in my life. You ever seen a bear move? It looks nothing like a cat.

And it was said in the movie by the old healer what Jean-Francois did.

Since you didn’t like the movie, I won’t suggest you watch it again in French with English subtitles, but trust me that you’re completely mistaken on this one, Scylla.

And I think you realize it now and are being deliberately obtuse. :slight_smile:

No. They said he was attacked, but I don’t recall them saying it was by a lion.

They have its eye on the homepage, and it’s not a cat’s eye. Brown fur, dark round pupil.

Really not a lion. I’ll watch the special features and see if I can find out what the hell they claim it was.

And yeah, it didn’t move like a bear, but it didn’t move like a cat either. It moved like a bad computer graphic.

You’ve got to admire a man who sees a bear where everyone else sees a lioness.

Or is it pity?

I talked to my husband about this, as I love sharing humorous things with him, and he said, “A bear? A bear? What movie was he watching?” In Scylla’s defense, though, I did mention he watched the dubbed version and the word ‘bear’ may have been used. Hubby wasn’t swayed.

We giggled heartily. [sub]Is that an oxymoron…to giggle heartily?[/sub]

They did.

Well, yeah, it’s a wolf. Brotherhood of the Wolf, get it?

Since you still have the movie, go to the scene near the end of the movie where Gregoire de Fronsac kills the beast. When he reaches through the armor and pets the thing, you can see it has the yellow fur and slitted eyes of a lion. I’m not 100% if that’s also the scene where the old healer tells him that Jean-Francois brought back the cubs or if it was earlier.

Anyway, since I saw the movie when it came out on the big screen, maybe it was easier for me to tell that it was yellow lion fur.

Ok. I’ll go and look again.

I think it was a wolf. Neener neener.

Big Cat’s eyes are round.

http://members.aol.com/cattrust/lion.htm
http://www.lionlmb.org/lion/lionfact.html
The only actual picture i could find(scroll down): http://ise0.stanford.edu/class/ee368a_proj00/project17/ee368_finalReport.html

After this eloquent review, I don’t feel like renting the movie to find out, so…

How on earth does one masquerade for decades as only having one arm? Where does the other one go?

Does he bind it up and just walk around with a strange bump on one side, or does he have a detachable arm, or what?

Still think it was a wolf. Wolf wolf wolf. Woof.

I did fall asleep during the last 30 minutes, though. I had to ask hubby for the scoop and he hates subtitled movies.

Nevertheless, I thought it was an entertaining filler movie. Kind of like the trash I read between more serious books.