Why are all of us on this thread instead of in Hollywood? Terry Gilliam directing and Christopher Walken starring - or Gene Wilder reprising - sounds way better than the current idea.
By the way, if Aniston and Pitt are just producing - that is, not appearing - I don’t see what the problem is.
Well hell, I fell asleep and here you all are Walken is imho perfect for the roll, he was the first person that popped into my head, but it is hard to imagine anyone having the cojones to actually cast him.
I don’t want Wilder to reprise, he has already done this film, and done it fantastically. If they are going to do a remake it should be able to stand on it’s own, an addition to (rather than a bastardisation of) the existing materials.
If only that were true. WW and the CF might be more edgy than your average Disney movie, but when I first saw it at around seven years old, I was unimpressed at its cutesiness. The book was great, but the movie was too tame in comparison.
And the Oompa Loompa songs sucked. In the movie they sounded like righteous do-gooders, but in the book they sounded quite sadistic. Which was great.
Any cite for this? That would be GREAT.
Also, I am excited for the remake. Read a lot of Dahl (including WWatCF) as a kid, and while the Wilder version was OK, I think they could really make a new one smoke. Cage? not so sure. Walken or Glover? Love the idea.
It was cute how they changed to Oompa-Loompas to be no earthly human race, unlike the African-style islanders in the original. They’re not exactly enslaved; I think Charlie catches a glimpse of their village with hospitals and schools and all. Wonka has rescued them from some horrible creature(s) that was killing them off. They’re human but odd enough that they wouldn’t fit in in the outside world, supposedly.
Yes, it does leave sort of a weird taste in my mouth too, and I haven’t had any dinner-gum. But, not to hijack, sometimes the social constructs of British writers of the 50s and 60s (CATCF is 1964) make you blink a little now. One of my favorite radio plays is this adaptation of Jack Vance’sTHE MOON MOTH–the music is lovely, lead theater singer David Garrison is funny and poignant as always, and it’s a satire of the British administrator abroad set in an alien world where everybody wears masks and sings to each other. And oh yeah, they have slavery. Real slavery. The slaves must wear plain black cloth masks and are the only people who may be addressed by speaking to them. And I am now totally off-track, but things like that make the Oompa-Loompas in the book look very benign by comparision.
It will be interesting to see how they update it. I think the ratio of showing the ‘reality’ of the factory to the fantasy of it was just right in the original movie, and I hope they don’t shove the reality in our faces too much this time. As for Nick Cage, he might be able to pull it off but not only is he too tall, he’s too YOUNG! Same problem as with Wilder, who I adored FWIW. I mean, unless there’s something fatally wrong with him or wizards like him don’t live long, the ‘child’ he chooses to run the factory will be about forty by the time he takes over! :eek:
I think a new version of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory would be a good idea, but frankly, I think Burton is the wrong man for it. At least, if his recent films are any indication, he doesn’t have the sense of wonder anymore.
Mars Attacks was completely ridiculous (and not in a good way). Sleepy Hollow was a campy, pointless mess. Planet of the Apes was pretty much a waste. To be honest, I think Burton’s last really good film (and possibly his best ever) was Ed Wood.
I don’t think Burton has it in him to capture the wonder and the magic of Roald Dahl’s book. Not these days. I could maybe – maybe – see Tim Burton doing a decent job of directing an adaptation of The Series of Unfortunate Events, and I think the idea of him making a movie version of Geek Love is almost ideal (if that really is coming, I’ll be sure to see it!). Those stories are much more suited to his talents these days.
Terry Gilliam would likely be a better choice for Charlie and the Chocolate Factory… I fear that Burton would butcher it in the same way he did Sleepy Hollow.
Seriously? How in the Nine Hells did that happen? (NOTE: I know how it happened, but I can’t imagine how it came about. So to speak.)
Ok, this is going to sound really weird, but in Burton’s Planet of the Apes, I found myself thinking, Helena Bonham Carter is gorgeous, even if she IS a damn, dirty ape!
Seriously, it really upset me that I was attracted to this freaky chimp-woman in the movie. I think it’s all in the eyes. She has those amazing eyes… It makes me wonder if she and Burton didn’t “monkey around” during filming while she was still in costume. :eek: