Bush Administration Conspires With Companies Screw their Employees

I don’t see the cause for all the teeth-gnashing. The general republican platform is to favor the free market to solve problems. Interpretations of rules which would effectively reduce the government-imposed regulation of labor rules are what I expect them to do. It’s what we elected them for.

I read something about this yesterday that gave information about it. The article summed up that basically the new laws allowed for companies to pay workers the same amount of money for more work.

It’s not my fault this Administration keeps pushing forward policies that are blatantly screwing the masses over the affluent few.

Heck, five years ago, it’d be “mindlessly paranoid” to suggest the United States would have the authority to imprison people indefinitely without charges or due process, but we’ve got several thousand folks in Gitmo as a testament to that today…

I like Kimstu’s facts better.

I like Kimstu’s facts better.

Thanks CBE, I try to use only the best facts! :slight_smile: I don’t know if I’d say that I like them better on that account, though. I would like it better if furt were right that the Administration really wants to revise the OT rules for the sake of ensuring that more workers get better pay. Unfortunately, the rest of the facts tell a different story, whether I like it or not.

Right you are Kimstu: Let me rephrase. I find your facts more accurate.

Isn’t it just lovely that the Labor Department, funded by all taxpayers money, is coaching businesses on how to reduce their payrolls? I’d like to see them spend the same effort advising workers how not to be taken advantage of by these loopholes. Either that or at least butt the f*ck out.

Well, that is rather a revealing way of putting it.

I’m far from an economist, and doing the math on what the net effect of the new laws would be is not my ken. Kimstu’s sources may well be right; I’ll not argue. I was simply pointing out that the article in the OP presented it as an expansion of the rules, which you seemed to have missed. Apparently you only pay attention when the information fits with what you already believe.

Furt, I rephrased my statement in my last post. What I really wanted to say was that Kimstu presented cites to back up his facts while Brutus, who adamntly insisted that he had the facts quietly disappeared. Nor did your reference to the OP prove anything.

But so as to avoid any further confusion as to where I stand on this issue I am squarely behind the workers right to OT and against any effort by the government to help businesses skirt the labor laws with “Creative Wage Manipulation 101” courses.

Furt, I rephrased my statement in my last post. What I really wanted to say was that Kimstu presented cites to back up his facts while Brutus, who adamntly insisted that he had the facts quietly disappeared. Nor did your reference to the OP prove anything.

But so as to avoid any further confusion as to where I stand on this issue I am squarely behind the workers right to OT and against any effort by the government to help businesses skirt the labor laws with “Creative Wage Manipulation 101” courses.

Right. Except for the fact that the new policy appears to favor the lower income brackets over the “affluent.” From Kimstu’s cite:

Did you miss that part, or just ignore it?

AQA, so now the affuent are working for an hourly wage and punching a time clock?

From SmackFu’s linked article above:

So one of the options given by the Labor Dept is for employers to raise salaries. How come no one is mentioning that? This thread is just more mindless Bush-bashing, you say? Carry on, then.

Considering the previous threshold was only $8,060/year, what are the odds that an employer will give the employee a 120%+ pay raise?

Having an option available is meaningless if nobody’s going to use it.

Having the government mention an option that any idiot with half a brain could come up with on their own is meaningless as well, but a whole lot of people are complaining about it. Nobody seems to appreciate the fact that lowering wages to lower labor cost is the most obvious thing in the world, and they don’t need gov’t guidance to discover it.