Yeah, it’s not like they haven’t had a lot of experience telling bald-faced lies to people who know they’re lying.
Yes, why can’t the Armenians just turn the other cheek and forget all that silliness of long ago?
No doubt the Turks are just “helping out” the U.S. because they are fond allies and enemies of terrorism - but could we see some details of just exactly how much they are helping (and how “heavily” we rely on them), and for how much in return?
Turkey is pregnant?
Why can’t they simply build strawman like the rest of us, ehe? Yeah…I know what you mean.
No doubt the PKK is just being playful too. I assume this is a backhanded request for a cite? I believe, if you scroll up, there already is one that gives a rough aproximation of how heavily we rely on Turkey for our logistics into Iraq. Is that what you are after?
Hey, don’t look at me. I warned the Europeans to stick with anal sex or use a condom.
-XT
I think we can now safely conclude that at least some of the people who voted for the Armenian Genocide resolution weren’t trying to be back-door clever.
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Let’s see, we’ve already pissed of the Turks enough that any chance of keeping them from going into Kurdistan is gone. I know that we still have basing rights, and supply lines going through Turkey, that might be at risk should the House actually pass this thing. But there’s a part of me that’s thinking - we’ve already paid this much political capital with the Turks on this issue, stopping now is getting nothing for what has been expended.
Which is just as stupid as any of the many foreign policy blunders that the Democrats lay at the Bush administration’s feet. Why couldn’t people have wised up before this?
IMNSHO, it is being done for a purpose. The left is pushing this resolution hoping to piss off Turkey, who will then withdraw support for the US military in Iraq. Voila, more soldiers get killed, we have to pull out early, Bush looks bad as a result. And that’s all that matters to them.
If only!
If the Congressional Democrats really wanted to end the war, they could simply defund it.
BTW, we wouldn’t be pulling out “early,” but far too late.
“Early”? 
Gee, Clothahump, it was two full years ago that you were telling us that our Iraq policy was gratifyingly successful:
Two whole years after that post, and four and a half years after the invasion, this “success” still hasn’t managed to achieve significant stability or peace in Iraq, or to prevent hundreds more of our soldiers and thousands more Iraqi civilians being killed. And now you’re claiming that it’s “early” to suggest troop withdrawal?
At what point will you stop shifting the goalposts and claiming that it’s still too “early” to acknowledge policy failure or consider changing policy? I mean, is there anything at all (short of inaugurating a Democratic president, of course) that you would consider sufficient grounds on which to blame the presiding Administration for failing in Iraq, rather than just dismissing such charges as attempts by their political opponents to make them “look bad”?
(I must say, if we do get a Democratic president in January 2009, it will at least be amusing to see all the Bush supporters finally scrambling aboard the bandwagon of demanding accountability. “Here it is February already, and Iraq is still in chaos! She’s had three whole weeks in power and still hasn’t managed to clean things up over there! How much longer are we and the Iraqis supposed to wait before these incompetent leaders actually achieve substantial results?” Yup, gonna be good for a chuckle, at least.)
I heard the left has pretty much given up on trying to kill soldiers. They figured Bush has already killed over 3800 and they’ll never catch up with him with that kind of lead. And he’s pretty far out in front on the “making Bush look bad” event too.
Beyond your usual fixation with Spain’s Age of Empire – and the ensuing Anglo Black Legend bullshit you’re so fond of – I’m rather surprised I agree with you on this one. The PKK is is an internationally recognized terrorist organization and if the US (or the powers that be – whomever they are) don’t stop them, then it is only LOGICAL for Turkey to take matters into their own hands.
I believe it is called “self-defense” and with said label (as opposed to the BS Iraq invasion) Turkey has the right under International Law – yep, call me a fool, but I do believe in some sort of international consensus for a casus belli – to react and defend itself against unprovoked attacks/terrorism. Up to the US and their puppet Iraq Gov to put a halt to them (PKK) otherwise.
Back to the resolution silliness: I would appreciate the House acknowledging the USA’s own genocidal past before chastising Turkey for a little money from a tiny & obscure ethnic minority.
I don’t hate Armenians, I just think we need perspective.