How are you delineating between being responsible and being accountable?
Saying something is not remotely the same as actually doing those things.
It’s germane as to why that last sentence matters whether it’s included or not.
I, personally, don’t think it matters in terms of so-called 'fighting words", but let’s be rigorously accurate in what was said so that folks can judge for themselves.
http://www.gmarkhardy.com/docs/NRA-0507%20Accountability%20101.pdf
The protesters are responsible for the actual violence committed. Trump is accountable for the climate which helped to promote that violence. (This is by no means saying that he is the only one accountable.)
Nah, its those Mexicans who pour over the border to become welfare queens. They just cover it up by doing stoop labor for shit wages.
Ok. So if *arguendo *Trump is accountable for the climate which helped promote that violence, what is the way in which the liability is measured? In other words, how is he supposed to be held accountable? Bob seems to think it’d be acceptable to assassinate Trump. Should it be okay to prevent Trump from speaking? Should it be okay for folks to assault Trump supporters?
Well I think fostering an atmosphere of animosity and hatred makes you somewhat responsible for what results. Think it’s odd to give him a total pass, frankly. Guess we’ll just have to disagree on that.
None of the above. As far as being held accountable, the only way in his case would probably be by people who change their votes away from him. I guess there’s a small chance that someone could bring a civil action against him for it, but that’s unlikely.
If it were something covered by the UCMJ, he would most definitely be held accountable. The military is where the distinction arises and is taught most clearly. It’s one of the first concepts of leadership.
Re: Bob, I’m pretty sure he wasn’t being serious about that, but it’s really more for him to say.
Ok - then assaulting Trump is not an acceptable way to hold Trump accountable for his protected speech. Do you agree with that? Like I said, Bob and elucidator disagree with that.
I didnt see elucidator say that.
Hm… Actually assaulting Trump… Not his supporters, but the man himself…
No, no, as much fun as it sounds, get thee behind me Satan.
“I’ve got a shoe-horn, the kind with teeth.
People should not get beat up
for stating their beliefs.
I’ve got a shoe-horn, the kind with teeth,
so I know there’s such a thing.”
There is some crazy parsing because folks are having trouble trying to avoid blaming the victim. In any event, elucidator said Trump bears some responsibility for assaults perpetrated against his supporters.
What is the way to hold Trump accountable for his alleged responsibility? If the response to assaults is to point out Trump’s alleged responsibility it seems like the logical conclusion to view the assaults favorably.
Dress proactively, get raped. Go to a trump rally, get assaulted. These are analogous. Being consistent means being against or okay with both.
I have the power to cloud minds. Well, my mind, mostly, but still!
Emphasis added. Assume you mean “provocatively”. 
I blame Autocorrect. The only appropriate response would be to throw eggs at me
Well, you are responsible. Or accountable, Or something. 
Absolutely not acceptable. So yes, I agree.
So it’s almost like you are standing up for rape victims here. Bravo sir. You are a true hero. Or maybe you’re just analogous to a hero.
I don’t give him a pass for the behavior. I think it makes him a horrible, nasty, brutish person who should be shunned and rejected. I just don’t think he, or his supporters, should be injured or threatened or struck or papercut over it. Yelled at? Sure. Sneered at, jeered at, or even leered at? You bet. But touched? No. That’s beyond what his words can be responsible for causing.
In a lot of ways, I know I’m suggesting an artificial line. Yelling at someone is an act. Touching them with my pinkie finger is an act. Hitting them with a club is an act. But we do distinguish between hateful words and physical violence.
I guess some folks never heard: Sticks and stones can break my bones, but names can never hurt me.
Many people reject that because, of course, it’s a bunch of hooey. Words are extremely powerful, and the acts a words can represent even more so. Words can be violent, words can mean destruction and death. Still, we have set up this dichotomy, and I think on the whole we have to have it because we’d otherwise risk escalating every schoolyard taunt into a justifiable butt kicking.