You talk about the “hard edge of reality” but refuse to engage with actual data and discussions about methodology.
Meanwhile, you’re selling a narrative about black kids that aligns nicely with the narratives created by slaveholders to justify slavery. In your mind, I suppose it is a total coincidence that you think these kids are lazy, undisciplined, and disrespectful because of their racial identity and that this was also historically a core precept of white supremacy. Total coincidence, right Shodan?
In the narrative you are selling, teachers are akin to slave owners.
You know who else agrees that many black kids today are lazy, undisciplined and disrespectful, many black teachers. Are they like slave owners too?
Your narrative aligns perfectly with what the communists used to say about America. Is that a total coincidence?
If a student has a disability and the school proves they cannot deal with him, then they have to pay to put him into a school where they can.
For example here in Kansas City many kids go to KCAutism Training Center. I believe its like $35,000-$50,000 a year. Yes, that district has to pay for it. I know one family who the family sued the local district showing their incompetence in dealing with their daughter and they got the district to pay to send her to a residential facility in Wichita (cant remember the name) costing nearly $100,000 a year.
Its part of the no child left behind law.
Its similar if you have a kid who is deaf your district would have to pay to send them to Kansas School for the Deaf.
Your talking about just a few little ass***** that have decided their purpose in life is to ruin the school, sell drugs, and cause mayhem and nobody like parents can stop them. Look at their grades and they have never passed a class (except those times when teachers will make a deal with them - dont cause trouble in my class and I will give you an A - yes it happens). In reality even in inner city schools most kids can be kept in control with a combination of parents, grades, wanting to play sports, and strict rules including targeted suspensions.
BTW, let me throw this out, being suspended out of school doesnt mean they cannot take work home and turn it in when they come back. If they are suspended, but still serious about school, they will do it.
I agree, and so are the comments. I’d love to (well, not really) see the ones that were deleted. I’ll put it this way: I have always said that if Sandy Hook or Columbine happened at a school like this, it might be reported on the local news (maybe) and would disappear from said news almost immediately, and would later be discussed only on racist blogs. I hope this theory is never proven right or wrong.
My brother and his wife, who are the parents of the special-needs child I mentioned earlier in this thread, lived in Kansas City in the early 1990s and Houston, TX in the late 1990s, before they had their kids, and knew they didn’t want to raise children there because they met several TEACHERS who home-schooled! This was at a time when HSing was considered a wacko lunatic-fringe kind of thing, so that says a lot.
He said that at the time, Kansas City schools would send cabs, at school expense, to pick up kids who didn’t show up to school. You can guess the rest: there were lots of “parents” who didn’t bother getting their kids up and ready for school on time, because they knew a cab would come for them. This was why the KC school district spent more than twice as much money per student as the rest of the state, with marginal results.
My opinion is that the bill doesn’t tell kids that at all.
It just tells teachers that their skill set has to include more than just suspending kids.
My sympathy is with the other kids, but there are lots of jobs that are difficult. I don’t give teachers and school managers a special pass just because they find it difficult.
so teachers have to be child psychologists, family counselors, social workers in addition to teaching 30-40 other kids for low pay? and MR Idealist, where exactly is this money coming from?
No, I dont think so. Maybe in a few schools but IMO gone are the days athletes got away with everything. If anything athletic keeps the kids in line because many schools have policies where low grades or misbehavior can get a kid kicked off a team.
I remember a few years ago NPR had a so-called expert on to claim that suspending kids from school massively “increased” their chances of going to prison in adulthood. The host took this declaration of the arrow of causality at face value. No one ever raised the possibility that what was really happening was that kids who were inherently oriented toward violence and antisocial behavior were more likely to get suspended on the way to adulthood because of their violent and antisocial behavior. :smack:
Next someone will correlate the number of ice cream trucks on the road on any given day with the incidence of heat stroke and declare that we should ban ice cream trucks. :rolleyes:
To be fair, the two things feed off each other. Sure, a violent student is likelier to be suspended, but that suspension (if it’s the out-of-school type) arguably pushes them further yet down the road to crime.
Ironically one example pointed early by a critic of the ban in support of his position; does show that that is not really what it is done while applying also more discipline when needed, in a “school that was brought under control”.
My impression is that funds were found, and really, more money is needed on that front for the security of our communities instead of wasting money on a wall.
What is restorative discipline?
Do you have the time to set up and meet with these parents?
What is better classroom management?
If I see racism at work, I call it out. At the very least, they change their behavior when I am around or involved. It doesn’t happen often.