Me, too. California is anti-GOP, but it’s not extremely liberal, as a whole.
There are also people who don’t work full time all day every day for ride sharing services, who really are independent contractors in the sense that they choose to work the hours they work and have school, or another job, or a household to run part of the time.
I’ve chatted with plenty of Uber drivers in downtown Chicago, and many working the evening rush (especially on a surge-y Friday when rides from work overlap with rides to bars, restaurants, and theaters) were suburban part-timers who came down because of the surge pricing.
I understand there are many industries where calling workers independent contractors is a subterfuge, as they work just as strict schedules under as much direct supervision as an employee would, in many cases right alongside employees. But with ride sharing, the drivers really can pick their hours. It really is a gig, not just a 9-to-5 job disingenuously called a gig.
This seems easily solved, as easily as any other job: if drivers work part time hours, they’re classified as part time workers and treated accordingly. If drivers work full time hours, then they are treated as full time workers/employees. This is how it’s handled for other types of jobs in many states. I don’t see how this situation is different.
Now, this might lead Uber to limit driver hours to (say) 30 hours/week. But if these are all gig jobs, nobody will care, right?
To me, the difference is that the driver, not the company, decides how many hours to work. It’s not like Uber/Lyft are scheduling hours/shifts for the drivers - they can drop-in any time they want, and do as many drives as they want - it’s on them. If the company is transparent that they do not offer benefits to drivers, no matter how many hours they put in, then I think that is fair.
This only works if it is the company that is deciding the number of hours you work. If it is the driver deciding to work 30 hours or 60 hours this week then it causes a lot of headaches for the company to have to reclassify them every week. If the company is deciding how many hours you work and when you work them then you are clearly an employee and should be treated as such but if you are deciding when and how much to work then you should be a contractor.
I’ve got a contractor I’ve hired he works however many hours he wants each week and I give him assignments when he’s available but I don’t even know how many hours he has worked until he invoices me at the end of the month. Trying to make him my employee would cause me to have to fire him. I’m not Uber and at this point my company is based in Colorado and my Contractor is in Washington so it doesn’t affect us but I try and keep my eye on this stuff since it tends to spread. I’m very glad the voters rejected the proposition.
The voters approved the proposition. They rejected the legislation.
Thanks I got confused.
Passing Prop 22 was unbelievably stupid and will eventually be seen as contributing to California’s downfall.
All workers could have worked under any hours or any conditions they wanted if they unionized. They could have dictated the terms of their employment, rather than having it dictated to them. That this passed was a triumph of ignorance and lies.
So did many voters, I think; but I’m not sure which way that changed the outcome.
This pisses me off, too. WTF?? If my Uber driver freely gets into a car knowing that they get no state benefits, insurance (health & auto), sick days, vacation days, will they know what to do at a red light? I voted a hard no on that.
Uber said they did have a new “benefits” package, but I don’t know the details. Anyone see that?