looking at Bob Hope’s house with Street View 10346 moorpark street toluca lake ca (its on the market and I got curious)
The stop sign at Moorpark has a sign under it. All Way
is that an odd California way of saying 4 Way stop?
I’ve driven in many states and 4 Way was always used. What does All Way mean?
I’m guessing it’s so they don’t have to print special signs for special intersections (3way, 5way, etc.)
Is it more than 4 ways? I have seen that used at intersections where a bunch of streets come together at many different angles.
It means no street at the intersection is without a stop sign.
it’s called a nonexclusive stop. they didn’t have room for all those letters, so they are informal.
I would have guessed it was the same as a 4 way stop. Driving in other states can be a bit confusing. I wonder if they have a short list by state of unusual rules or terminology? (Studying the entire drivers manual isn’t practical if someone is just driving in the state for a day or two)
It means no matter how many streets are intersecting there, everyone has to come to a stop and obey the usual right-of-way rules, which in CA means pedestrians first, and otherwise the vehicle on the right has right-of-way. Bicyclists ignoring this may be run down with prejudice.
It’s not odd. Makes sense.
Exactly right. The sign is used in places where various numbers of roads come together.
Also seen in some places where a cross street is off set a little as at a township line.
Have seen in TX, OK, AR & Kansas.
Ignorance fought. Thanks everybody. Now I know for sure.
I thought I knew, but guessing can result in loud car horns and getting flipped off.
There are “all way” stop signs here in Illinois, as well, at normal 4-way intersections, too. For example, here is one I found just randomly looking through Chicago neighborhoods.
I seem to remember you’re from Arkansas. They exist there, too.
I thought the vehicle which arrives first has the right-of-way. (Only if two vehicles arrive at the same time does the vehicle on the right automatically have the right of way, right?)
huh, I never saw one of those. I’ve always saw 4 way, 3 Way signs. I guess All Way is something they are transitioning to. Even in that article the reporter says the intersection will now be 4 way. Thats the terminology we all learned.
<shrug> I’ll stop and obey the rules of a 4 way intersection. Thats what matters.
BTW, Toluca Lake is just a neighborhood in Los Angeles, even though they write the address as though it were its own city.
(In case anyone is confused, I changed the link to the google maps picture of the intersection. Here is the article that was originally linked.
Incidentally, I’ve always wondered why there were 3-way, 4-way, 5-way, and all-way signs. Why not make them all “all-way”? Would seem to be cheaper that way, or is there a situation where you might have a stop marked “3-way” with more than three roads?
That’s what confused me too. Is All Way new terminology for 4 way? Or is there a distinction?
It sounds like new terminology for an old traffic rule.
I’ve seen an intersection like that. One side was on a fairly steep hill, so it didn’t have to stop. (It’s a situation where the diagrams used in Quebec are much better at communicating what’s going on.)
People in NY sometimes call them “4 way” , but I think the signs always said “all way”. Because not all intersections have traffic coming from four directions- if two one- way streets intersect, an all-way stop would be a two-way stop. If a two-way street intersects with a one-way street, traffic flows in three directions.
In that article, it appears that the intersection used to be a three way stop, even though there were four directions of traffic :
And in that part of town, the meandering directions the streets sometimes take can result in some oddly-shaped intersections; thus “all way” stops make perfect sense.
