"CALIFORNIA" @#$%*&

Alright, dig this gang, Im in California & I went to our local museum & asked them what the word ‘California’ translates to in Spanish. Easy? Ha! The clerk didn’t know, 5 people in the room & the curator didn’t know.Went to our library & asked, & they did not seem to be able to come up with anything [in encyclopedias, etc] other than it’s origin from a book, you know a mythical Treasure City in the amazon…

Well, I can’t believe that they would call our state after a word [California] that means nothing in Spanish. Ah, come on, does someone here know what it really means?

Thats incredible!

Next you’ll be telling me that “Pennsylvania” doesn’t mean anything in spanish, or even “Minnesota”.

Cali=hot (as in caliente)
Forn=sex (as in fornication)

California=land of hot sex

I went to a babelfish site. It translated “California” in English to “California” en espanol. From Spanish to English, it translated “California” as “California.”

I hope this was helpful.

What you’re doing, handy, is like asking a librarian what Camalot or Oz means in English. California is named after a ficticious place from Spanish literature. It has no literal meaning.

Origin of State Names
Pretty good list.

State Names
(Some of these look suspicious to me–not because they are “wrong” but because the definitions are shortened variants of how the name really came to be.)

Tom~

Oooh! Oooh! I know this!

California is the place where Cortéz expected to find the element californium.

-California is named after the legendary Queen Calafia from the 16th century Spanish novel “the adventures of Esplandian.”-

Motorcycle journeys through Baja.
C.Salvadori,
Whitehorse press

Ha! This is easy. California is spanish for “bring more chairs.”


I Don’t Know Whether To Kill Myself Or Go Bowling.
-famous C&W song-

Yours truly,
aha

Hmmmmm,

16thC Origin for California.

There is a small village in East Yorkshire not far from Filey called California and ,if I recall, it has a church.
Most of the churches round there are at least dated around the late 1600’s to early 1700’s but the majority are rebuilt on earlier Saxon and Norman remains.

You’ve got me thinking-I’ll try find out more-watch this space folks.If it’s nice tomorrow I’ll ride over on the bike.

Actually, what handy’s doing is griping about one more thing about California. BTW, handy; anything here you do like?

california, ?? um don’t know, don’t care, just live there.

forgot

Just had a good look around where I thought California was ,turns out to be a village called Washington-heh

Damn word association eh!
Should’ve checked the local road maps before I set off!!

There is a California in Scotland somewhere and another in Norfolk just north of Great Yarmouth.

If you are really interested then try http//www.genuki.org.uk/index.html there are some maps on the site plus lots of info on geneology.

Aargh!

That link again http://www.genuki.org.uk/index.html

“Las Sergas de Esplandian” (The Deeds of Esplandian) was written sometime around 1498 by Garci Ordonez de Montalvo as an additional 5th chapter to his Spanish translation of the Portugeuse “Amadis de Gaula” a very popular book of chivalric deeds written by Vasco de Lobeira around 1400.

Esplandian was the son of Amadis and they were assisting the Byzantine Emperor at the siege of Constantinople. Fighting beside the Turks was a band of Amazons, led by their queen, Calafia. They were from an island of bold rocks and crags located on “the right hand of the Indies.” Their island abounded in gold " no other metals being found there". When her early attack failed (the Turks suffered some friendly fire causualties from the Amazons’ griffins), Calafia and another Turkish champion challenged Amadis and Esplandian to a duel. Esplandian won his match against the other champion but Amadis was too chivalrous to draw his sword against Calafia. He did, however, knock her out with the butt end of her spear. She soon recovered, fell in love with Esplandian’s cousin (Esplandian was already engaged to the Emperor’s daughter), became a Christian, got married, and the female only gender bias on Calafia’s island was broken. This was hot stuff in the 1500’s and any of the conquistadors who could read would have been familiar with the story.

(However, in the “History of Don Quixote” (1605), the village barber and curate decide that Don’s problem was that he read too many “unholy books of misventures”. The first book that they threw on the fire was “Las Sergas de Esplandian”.)

So when the Spanish sailed over to southern Baja California, found the bold and rocky crags, the pearl beds and rumors of gold, the thoughts of Calafia’s island came to them.

There is a problem with this theory. A subtle literary reference was not the standard operating procedure for naming places among the conquistadors. Usually the names were more like (in Spanish) Miry Place, Cape Disappointment, Get Out If You Can, New Year’s Island and, the old standby, whichever saint’s feast day it was. However, “Calafia’s Island” is the standard expected explanation for the name now.

I always like the “calida fornax” (= Latin for hot furnace)or one of its Spanish derivatives explanation but this is out of favor now. Supposedly in 16th century Catalan, “californa” meant “hot oven”, an excellent description of southern Baja in the summer time. However my 16th century Catalan style manual says that the word order should be inverted. That is, not “californo” but “fornicalia”. Has a nice ring to it.

mipsman, that is a great explanation. That way we can see that it does seem to have a root word. Although its appropiate, ‘fornicalia’ would never get accepted.

Monty, what I love about California is that you can complain about California all you want & people ask you if there is anything you like about California :slight_smile:

“California, the granola state, whats not fruit & nuts is flakes”

Here’s a question 4 u. Why do u care?

Handy,

I have yet to see you say something nice about anything. Why is it that the only comments that you care to share here are complaints or snide remarks? :confused:

Just curious.


The Turtle Moves

aenea, haven’t you seen Titus or Malcolm in the Middle? Shucks, get with it, complaining IS the way to compliment people :slight_smile: