Campaign Issue: Trump's Poor Health?

[Icarus]

@RickJay

Yes it certainly did. The Democrats made virtually no mention of Trump’s health, but the Republicans made considerable mention of Clinton’s health - esoecially after she collapsed - and it cost her votes.

Yesh, how’s that “When they go low, we go high” stuff working out?

[Aspenglow]

@QuickSilver

It’s notable that this is the level we’ve reached in concluding a president to be too incompetent to do his job. Not obvious misogyny, racism, pathological lying, abject ignorance, limited literacy, corruption and active undermining of democratic institutions.

To be considered incompetent to serve as POTUS, you must literally exhibit a psychological or neurological event during a public address. And you’ll still get a pass on it the first couple of times.

Welcome to the new normal, folks.

It’s fucking bonkers.

Thank you. Yours is exactly my take on the situation.

To your list I would add reckless impulsivity that endangers our national security, obviously compromised by foreign powers and criminal to the bone. I realize you had the criminal part covered under “corruption,” but it’s so bad and so deep it deserves saying twice.

But no worries. He’s not shitting himself while drooling out word salad and lies to his base, so we’re good. :rolleyes:

[Superdude]

@Aspenglow

But no worries. He’s not shitting himself while drooling out word salad and lies to his base, so we’re good. :rolleyes:

(Post snipped by me)

This part reminded me of Futurama:

Leela: Let Mom buy the company! We all wanna be filthy, stinking rich!

Zoidberg: Trust me, two out of three doesn’t cut it!

[Pleonast]

@QuickSilver

It’s notable that this is the level we’ve reached in concluding a president to be too incompetent to do his job. Not obvious misogyny, racism, pathological lying, abject ignorance, limited literacy, corruption and active undermining of democratic institutions.

While it seems like Republican voters value loyalty over character and that their votes are preordained, I think it’s worthwhile reminding them how low their standards are. We owe it to the country to keep chipping at the Trump campaign, even when it seems futile, if only to preserve our own integrity.

[Hari_Seldon]

@JohnT

I, too, expect nothing more from the President than I do an average gas-station bathroom user.

You libel the average gas-station bathroom user, whom I expect will be no dumber than the average American, which Putin’s Puppet clearly is.

[Chisquirrel]

@Icarus

Yesh, how’s that “When they go low, we go high” stuff working out?

But when we join them in the mud, the party of “Fuck Your Feelings” acts all whiney.

Because their feelings MATTER, for some reason.

[RioRico]

@Pleonast

While it seems like Republican voters value loyalty over character and that their votes are preordained, I think it’s worthwhile reminding them how low their standards are.

How well does that work out?

These are voters who BEFORE the election knew that their candidate bragged of bribery and sexual assaults, said he wanted to fuck his underage daughter, had screwed all who trusted their money with him, had cheated on taxes, etc. Did they care? Sure, voters knew Wee Willie Clinton was a horndog when they elected and re-elected him. (I didn’t vote for him or any of his family or staff.) But this POTUS is on a different scale of malevolence and his followers are on a different scale of fuck-it-all-ness.

He twice tweeted, “Confiscate guns now, due process later.” Who did that bother? What passed through Trampsters’ alleged minds? Did any think, “He’s gonna take my guns!” ?? I doubt it. More likely: “Oh it’s just a joke.” “Oh he doesn’t mean MY guns.” “Oh look how impressive he is.”

I don’t think the words “standards” and “Republicans” can work in the same sentence.

[Fiddle_Peghead]

@Pleonast

Should the Democratic candidate for president (whoever it may be) make an issue of the physical health of un-indicted co-conspirator Donald John Trump, the presumed Republican candidate for president? How about his mental health? Is it something that would help get out the anti-Trump vote, or would it backfire as punching down at an unwell person? Or would it be a distraction from important issues? Or maybe the Democratic candidate themself shouldn’t discuss it, but leave it to proxies?

I think it should be an issue, addressed directly by the candidate. Trump is obviously having physical issues. Even if it’s not disease-related, he doesn’t appear to have the physical stamina needed to perform his duties. His mental capacity prevents him from adequately performing his duties as well.

Of course, as the current occupant, there’s plenty of help available to mitigate his diminished capabilities, but in the context of a new election I don’t think that matters. The electorate would like to be able to trust the president to make the best decisions, under demanding timelines, and the physical and mental health of the candidate directly affects that.

Other opinions?

I disagree with your premise that Trump is having obvious physical issues. He seems as healthy as the next 73 year old, which is to say, just fine. That being said, I say if Sanders or Biden or Warren get the nomination, they should stay away from age-related things as much as possible.