Can a 20-gauge shotgun do this?

Factual Questions
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By definition, if they’re running away, it’s not self defense.

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circumstances circumstances

in the Norfolk area there are NO police ie you call one and one turns up a day or two later

also he’d been a victim of violent crime before with intruders in his home

he fired the first shots from the stairs while they were still in his house and then continued to fire while they ran off

also what the hell were they doing in HIS house ? they had no right to be there so if they weren’t there they wouldn’t have been shot at ie the blame is mostly on their part (the dead kid and the crippled theif who was with him)

In the UK you are allowed to use REASONABLE force to knobble an intruder which i think he used , the alternative is laughable from the police cheif , they say if a burglar enters your home scream (heh yeah and get him to come into your home and stab you to death to STFU)

, also another case where this old man slept in his shed with a shotgun and he fired at a man got him in the arm they ran off and then the CPS (crown prosecution service (more like criminal protection service) pulled a case on him)
I mean what would you do?

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I know the caliber of a 12 gauge is approximatley .72, what is the caliber of a 20 gauge? I’d think this is going to be unrealistic to make two shots like this out of two and expect to be able to do it. Was the scene in the novel set at night? (Making it more difficult.)

I’ve seen tv productions of a number of re-creations of Oswalds shots. He could not have reasonable expected in advance to have got off two shots that hit, even though he was a very good shot. Eight seconds tops with a gun that was good at best, less by traditional calculations of time. I’d also like to point out that whenever a major historical figure is assassinated (or attempted) by a lone gunman, that the lone gunman is very intent on announcing himself at the scene a la John Wilkes Booth. I’ve read the Warren Commission report, which is really a long argument on why Oswald was the lone gunman. But based on all of the evidence, I think it was likely that he was a member of a conspiracy whose other members he did not know: in short, he was guilty of taking a few shots, but was hung out to dry as a patsy by his co-conspirators. I put another gunman on the grassy knoll (or a decoy) and another in the storm drain with silencers (much easier shot too).

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20-gauge = 0.615". So you can always call your fully rifled 20-gauge deer gun a “61-caliber rifle” to impress people. Not quite as cool are referring to your 10-gauge as a “man-portable 20mm cannon” though.

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Um, just to make sure everyone’s clear here, you do all realize that this is not a thread about the morality of shooting criminals, right?

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      • I never heard of 20-gauge slugs before…does they make them? Where I yam it’s all 12’s, since rifle hunting isn’t permitted.
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  • OP: a quarter-mile with a 20-gauge would be a miracle to hit at all, and ordinary shot likely wouldn’t be lethal even if it did hit from that far. 50 yards could happen, maybe 100, but not 430. Shotgun scopes are low magnificatin (3-6x) and don’t have the right reticles for precision shooting. - MC
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My first gun was a 20ga. A slug from 430 yards away, not on purpose. You would have to point the gun almost straight up in the air for that slug to travel 1/4 mile. I don’t care what someone can figure out on paper as far as velocity, trajectory, etc. I’m talking about real world experience. I spent many days in the woods with a pocket full of shells and that 20ga. Shot many friends with that gun. Been stung many times myself with birdshot. Bored kids and guns don’t mix. Its amazing the crap we pulled and got away with.