Can a freefalling helicopter start its engine, or otherwise save itself?

In the James Bond movie, “Die Another Day,” Bond (pierce Brosnan) and CIA agent Jinx (Halle Berry) board an MD-600N NOTAR helicopter, which is then ejected from the rear bay door of a burning and disintegrating cargo plane.

As the helicopter freefalls, Bond struggles to start the engine. He succeeds at the last moment and applies enough lift to arrest the freefall and fly away at ground skimming level.

I know this is Hollywood, but is there any way a skilled pilot of such a helicopter freefalling from thousands of feet could use its controls to gain a measure of control in such a situation, start the engine, and either save the helicopter by the application of power or by the standard emergency technique of autorotation?

Is there anything that might be done other than ride it in?

Autorotationis what keeps a helicopter from dropping like a rock.

At least it will give you something to read until the experts drop by :slight_smile:

Well, it is unlikely.

Generally, there is a minimum rotor RPM at which it is possible to initiate an autorotation. Below that speed, aerodynamic forces are not strong enough to keep the blades from decelerating. While this differs for different helicopters, I am not aware of any helicopters for which it is zero.

Starting the engine in uncontrolled free-fall, without autorotation, and then recovering with power is not theoretically impossible, but it would be exceedingly difficult to do, and most helicopter fuel systems probably will not work in an uncontrolled fall (they are designed to operate with the helicopter mostly upright and subject to approximately 1g).

Additionally, the helicopter would likely far exceed it’s maximum rated airspeed in an uncontrolled fall before the engine could be started, which would mean various components could be damaged by overloading in trying to recover, perhaps irreparably.

Finally, rotor blades are actually rather bendy. They only stay relatively straight in flight because of centripetal force when operating at the proper speed. When operating below that speed and carrying load, such as in a low-RPM autorotation or in trying to speed them using the engine in freefall, it is likely that they would flex enough to strike a part of the helicopter.

I actually texted a pilot friend of mine about this scene - his response “The stunt is plausible in that you have a shot at recovering in a free fall - pilots need to be able to recover from a stall, after all”

Does that help?

I suspect he is missing the part about having the engine turned off and the blades not turning.

You can auto-rotate some helicopters. If the engine starts up from it’s own starter motor you can recover the helicopter and fly away (although you are nuts if you don’t land as quickly and safely as possible). You usually can’t used the rotating blades to restart the engine because of the presence of a free-wheeling and/or automatically disengaging conventional clutch. The rotor has to be disconnected from the drive train in order to auto-rotate. Systems with a free-wheeling clutch allow the rotor to spin faster than the drive train and can’t start up the engine. Sometimes a conventional clutch can be manually engaged so an attempt to use the spinning rotor to start the engine could be made, but if it doesn’t work you drop like a rock.

They did it in Airwolf.

But Airwolf’s a secret super-chopper.

This is the biggest problem. I work for NASA and the army doing helicopter research. When the blades are not spinning fast enough they will flap all over the place. There is almost no chance you would be able to get through the range of rpm where you have little centripetal force without smashing through your own tail.

Speaking of the tail, I would suspect a NOTAR rotorcraft would have some serious issues maintaining stability while spinning up, but I do not know enough about how they respond at low power to say for sure.

The NOTAR uses fairly typical rotor blades so flapping will probably make auto-rotation unlikely. It’s weight should be slightly more concentrated than a conventional tail-rotor configuration, so that would increase it’s falling stability if the blades are providing enough drag to keep it upright. That might make all the difference between a flaming fatal crash into the ground at a random attitude, and a flaming fatal crash into the ground with an upright attitude.

I flew UH-1’s in the Army for five years and my info is based on that. I’m not sure why some people think there won’t be enough blade RPM. If the helicopter is in forward flight and the engine stops the blades are still going full speed. In fact as you fall the rotor RPM increases. We did touchdown autorotations all the time. Engine wasn’t off, but the throttle was rolled all the way off.

Autorotations from altitude we almost had to pull up on the collective to bleed off some RPMs on the way down. In a hovering autorotation if you pulled in to much collective you actually gained altitude and would then have a hard landing. Usual hover was 3 feet. Several times I saw choppers gain 4 or 5 feet and land hard. You only get one pull when you start at 3 feet.

As for a restart, you’d have to be up fairly high to have the time needed. Helicopters glide about as well as a brick. We were told while in flight school that they had 2 instructors cut the engine off at fivethousand feet and attempt a restart and they didn’t have time to get it done even being ready for it. Since we usually under fivehundred feet I don’t think I’d doing anything but looking for a place to land, checking the rotor speed and making my mayday call.

In the case in the OP the helicopter falls out of the back of a cargo plane, engine cold, rotor not spinning at all. So what people don’t believe possible is for the rotor to spin up to auto-rotation speed, or that the once the engine was started it could spin up the rotor to flight speed in a split second.

I’m not sure how flexing blades would end up hitting part of the copter-- Wouldn’t they be flexing up, away from the rest of the vehicle?

They could bounce up and down. But since it’s a NOTAR the chance of a blade strike is reduced. It’s probably the least concern in this situation.

A UH-1 has a high-inertia rotor system. This allows a little more time to initiate autorotation. Once autorotation is entered, aerodynamic forces keep the blades turning. The inside portion of the blade is the ‘driving’ section; and the outside portion, which is giving you your lift so you don’t fall out of the sky, is the ‘driven’ section. That’s why you can increase your rotor RPM with the engine off; aerodynamics, not inertia. Smaller helicopters have low-inertia rotor systems, so you have to be pretty quick on the cyclic stick.

Here’s what Robinson has to say about low rotor RPM. (Edited to fix pdf-to-html scan errors and to add emphasis to ‘doomed’ line, because I like that they used the word ‘doomed’ in an official document. :wink: )

The applicable part as to why they hit the boom is ‘This causes the retreating blade to stall first allowing it lo dive as it goes aft while the advancing blade is still climbing as it goes forward.’

So, what happened? Did you have two dead instructors, or what?

He’s saying they didn’t have time before they auto-rated to a landing to get the engine started, he’s not suggesting they crashed.

OK. Got it.

Mostly, but it is a very unsteady and messy aerodynamic environment, especially the section above the tail, which is quite wide on NOTAR rotorcraft. Even if they are not impacting immediately, the crazy aerodynamics as you spin up the rotor in this environment almost certainly would cause a strike.

Even without stall a strike could happen. In testing slowed-rotor compound helicopter designs (for reduced drag at higher forward speeds) we see that the 2/rev flapping goes to hell. You reach a point where you are bouncing off of the droop stops before you get near stalling the blade. The math says it should just get worse as the advance ratio goes up. Assuming you are not falling straight down with the flow perpendicular to the disk, this is the situation you are in when starting up the rotor in the OP.

If I recall the movie cited correctly, the rotor blades are in a stowed position above and parallel to the tail boom. I guess you could start the engine with the rotor like that, but how many helicopters have a feature allowing a pilot to deploy and lock the rotor blades from the cockpit. Cause, autorotation or powered flight isn’t going to happen unless the blades are out.

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