My local HS no longer assists me with something like that. They now only assist the blokes who are really, actually, resident. Dunno why: they didn’t seem interested in helping me find some alternative.
No honestly. I got a quote from Michigan and you are right. The rate is outrageous. $2,165.40 for 6 months.I did get a quote for Iowa and It is $190 for six months so I will probably use that address there instead. I have a daughter who can give me an address to use. She can’t help with a place to stay but For a F-150 2001 you can get that rate with Geico. Thanks for all your help.
I was basically homeless when I drove my own truck and trailer and used an old address to renew my CDL license. Geez I was making just over $200,000.00 per year for 10 years but expenses took half that just for diesel and then there were taxes, insurance and repairs that basically left me less than $20,000.00 to live on and pay personal bills. I can’t walk now and had to go to disability at 50yrs old. I will be 54 in June. It is much more difficult with a wheelchair which I use for long distances. can walk a little but not fast and not far. No cartilages in both knees as they took them out when I was 17 due to football and track. That’s the way they did it back then, 1977. My knees went to osteoarthritis, bone to bone and I could no longer do the vehicle inspections twice a day. Knees swell up and the pain is unbearable at times. Sold truck and trailer and bought a pickup with suicide door so I can get the wheelchair out. My aunt needed help and I needed a place to stay so I was fine until she died leaving me homeless. Her kids, my cousins got everything as they are her children. There are people with much worse problems than me, so even though I could use some help, I always remind myself that some are battling cancer, or have no legs at all, or they are blind, all worse than me.
Thanks again for all your input. I will just have to travel to Iowa and renew my registration every year and update my license as they are usually good for 4 or sometimes six years. I will figure it out. Lost my trucking business in the 2008 economy crunch when freight rates weren’t enough to pay the diesel bills and repairs. Thank you George Bush and Dick Cheney. I should have been smart and had my money in oil like they did. They ran away with the profits while us stupid owner operators went out of business.
I didn’t want my home address to be on my license which is public record so I gave Oregon dmv my mailbox etc street address (I was paying $40 a month for that mail service ), and the dmv office would not accept it. Their system flags mailing service addresses. I would suspect that all states do likewise.
An address is a powerful way to be in…or out…of society. It is super important to have one if you live in an alternative way. You do not want to have to tell everyone that you are homeless. I hate it but its a fact of life if you don’t want to be discriminated against. A good idea is to pay someone to use their address.
Not to be unsympathetic to homeless people, but don’t these policies exhibit a huge loophole in the system? Take, for example, the state of Wyoming. I’ve never been there in my life. The federal and state laws requiring residency are for security purposes so that if I get a DL or state ID card from the state of Wyoming, they are doing something to prove that I am a resident of that state.
If I can use the address of a homeless shelter, what stops me from flying to Cheyenne, putting on my rattiest clothes, getting 3/4 of the way drunk, and stumbling into the nearest homeless shelter asking for help? Then I go to the DMV (the next day, same clothes, get 3/4 of the way drunk again) and get an ID.
It seems that for whatever purposes the residency requirement serves, the homeless shelter exception swallows them all.
They’re still going to mail the ID card to the shelter, so you’re still going to have to still be living there two weeks later when it arrives–or at least you’re going to have to convince them to forward it to you back wherever you came from.
But so what? Then you have an ID from Wyoming . . . big deal. If you really want to do that, you don’t need a homeless shelter. You just need a friend who lives there willing to let you use their address for the same purpose.
The last time I went to the DMV, the card was printed there on the spot. No mailing required.
What if I am a terrorist or some other unseemly person with no friends? The homeless shelter exception gives me an out. I do agree with you about the “so what” I have a Wyoming ID part. But since it seems to not matter, why is there a need for proving residency?
It is sort of bullshit. I didn’t have one of the required proof of residency documents the last time I moved. But one of them was a voter’s registration card which didn’t require proof. So I got a new voters ID card and submitted it to the DMV.
If the DMV wants proof, why do they accept a card that requires no proof?
When I lived in Hawaii, I did a little volunteer work at a clinic in Waikiki that had a heavy homeless clientele. One of the services was to let the homeless use the clinic’s address as a “home” address for legal purposes. I didn’t specifically hear about driver’s licenses, but I suppose it wouldn’t have been out of the question.
Isn’t there a legal concept of domicile? Every fall, thousands of college students move into dorms in another state and keep their existing driver’s license and car registration, if they have them. If Billy’s California driver’s license renewal comes up while he is away at Michigan State, he would typically just mail back the paperwork and claim that his residence is still his parents’ house in Fresno. After all, Michigan State is fervently classifying him as an “out-of-state” student for tuition purposes regardless of whether he is strongly considering settling down locally after graduation. I never changed my DL address while in college. I know only one person who did, and they were a bit weird. The difference here is there is an address. It logically makes sense that if a person can be considered a California resident despite not physically living in California for several years (due to an apparent intent to return), then one would not actually need a physical home in California in terms of brick and mortar to remain a resident, as long as you did have a California home at one point and you have continuously intended to return to California as soon as practically possible.
Right. A person’s legal residence is the place where he intends to remain indefinitely. So even if Billy is in Michigan for the bulk of four years, he is only there for education purposes and his intent is to return to California when it is all done.
But, say, after year one, he could decide that he likes Michigan and declare that he will live there after graduation. That makes his state of residence Michigan.
In any event, both scenarios are reasonable and captured in the state licensing laws. I was talking about a hypo in which I have absolutely no ties to a state, no intention of remaining permanently, but still being able to get an ID by easily skirting the requirement.