Mitt Romney: “If elected, I will repeal Obamacare on day one.”
No further comment.
Let’s not publicize that distortion any more - taken from an interview 3.5 years ago and published as it it were a recent statement. Here’s what Buffett says about it.
That was still before many really fully understood its effects. Actually, many still don’t, but what they do understand isn’t good and why most Americans are not behind it.
Thanks for that link, I wasn’t aware of it, and have seen other links like I used stating the same thing, but should have done some more homework.
Nonsense. The people who oppose it now opposed it then.
Most Americans support the benefits of Obamacare:
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/06/25/505526/poll-most-americans-support-obamacare-provisions/
^ That would be relevant if the USA was a representative democracy.
A NBC/WSJ recent poll show 44% think Obamacare is a bad idea while only 31% think it is a good idea. By a 45% to 23% margin, most think it is going to have a negative impact on our country’s healthcare system. Do you remember seeing those numbers a few years ago?
While I’m sure that that majority that opposed it before probably still do, it certainly has had others change their mind that were once for it, or at least at the time, they thought it was a good idea for them, but now have changed their mind. I being one of them. I voted for Obama twice. I also thought that somehow it was really going to be more affordable to me. Now that I understand what the costs are going to be to me, I certainly don’t want any part of it.
Just wanted to add, most federal emmployees just want to do their jobs - and we have plenty of work to do.
Folk are required to report today, and have 4 hours to wrap things up. After that, 12 of us exceptional excepted folk are supposed to do the work of our 65-person office. Yeah - that’s going to go well. Then whenever our coworkers are allowed to come back to work, they will gleefully get to dig into the backlog that has accumulated. Fun times!
That poll was over a year ago. Some of those things I imagine they still support, but most are seeing a negative impact than positive one for much of the other parts of it.
This is pretty much the opposite of the truth. The stuff people do understand about the ACA they love.
This shutting down the government thing will work just as well for the GOP as it did last time.
Which other parts, specifically?
44% is neither “most” nor a “majority”. And, frankly, I’m one of the 44%. I think health care reform didn’t go nearly far enough. I strongly support a single-payer plan.
What I’m hoping will happen is that people find out that letting the insurance companies make profits off the backs of both consumers and health care providers in the name of “Universal Coverage” means that consumers and health care providers will suffer. The insurance companies won’t. And Congress will suddenly find itself flooded with campaign contributions so that the insurance companies can continue to reap profits on our backs.
That’s irrelevant, though, right? As your cite helpfully adds, most Americans – 61% – also oppose the individual mandate. So the question isn’t whether they support the benefits, but whether they support the benefits more than they oppose the mandate; as per your cite, most Americans – 56% – apparently don’t.
I mean, if you ask me whether I’d like a can of Pepsi, I’d probably say yes. If you tell me I’ll have to pay for it, I’d probably say “I’d rather get it for free.” If you tell me the price is five cents, I’ll say the good outweighs the bad and pay up. If you tell me the price is five dollars, I’ll say the bad outweighs the good and refuse. Whether I like Pepsi is completely irrelevant; how much I like Pepsi is kinda sorta the whole point.
I’m just trying to determine if there are any parts of Obamacare that people dislike besides the individual mandate. Because I am all for keeping all the benefits and repealing the individual mandate.
Yes, I know what would happen. I am in favor of that.
Well here’s Slate’s take on it, “using the tropes and tone normally employed by the American media to describe events in other countries.”
It was worth a chuckle.
Why are you arguing about how old snapshot polls are, whether they’re accurate, etc - didn’t Obama get relected in the wake of his healthcare plan?
He has a mandate from the electorate - arrived at after years of campaigning - that’s how democracy works, right?
I would propose from this that most Americans do not understand what Obamacare is. This is not an unreasonable thought, I think. Even moreso, they don’t understand why it matters. They don’t understand why the individual mandate is necessary, and they don’t understand the bill as a whole. The far more telling poll will be the one after Obamacare is implemented, because at that point, we’ll be going on more than stupid ignorant propaganda.
And the Congressmen presumably have their own mandates, sure as none of those elections were single-issue plebiscites.