You win the thread.
–Cliffy
You win the thread.
–Cliffy
Hmm, think I have to agree with the Christians on this one.
After all, Jesus Christ didn’t have Christian parents, and look at what a psychotic rabble-rouser he grew up to be.
Cain had two parents who were definitely not atheist, and he murdered 25% of the global population.
But only one will get up. 
I know you’ve been showered with praises over your various posts lately, so you might be jaded about it by now. Still : will you marry me in Vermont ?
My non-atheist parents wouldn’t approve of it.
Lemme guess. You’re new here, aint’cha?
Buy me a drink, and I’ll tell ya what’s goin’on. I’m the town drunk, y’know. 
Abuse is the ability to inflict one’s pain on another, let the other person bear that pain instead, it is the way of the world, not the way of God. This is the generational issues of children bearing the sins of the fathers to the 3 and 4th generation. This is what Jesus came to set us free of. God does use the way of the world so that the children turn to God and cry out to Him.
If God uses ‘the way of the world’ to make children cry out to him doesn’t that make it his way? Also you have the old ‘God made the world the way it is’ thing on top of that.
Nice to know God likes hearing from molested and beaten children begging for release from their torment though.
God is big enough even to overcome atheists parents. God knew exactly where that child would be placed. Our nation is under the authority of God by our country’s own admission ‘one nation under God’. Children need loving parents, I would advise that judge to take a lesson from the statement on the currency he gets paid in ‘in God we trust’ and get that child into a loving family they need.
Well since god controls everything, why not just prevent the evil atheists from adopting a child in the first place? Come to think of it, why not just get rid of Satan too? Unless god is seriously lacking some power or is just pussing out, I don’t quite get why he can’t just conquer the evil being he created in the first place.
This is one thing I’ve never gotten about the lack of reason and logic from Christians when they try to rationalize an all-knowing, all-powerful God that allows truly evil things (famine, genocide, etc.) and “evil” things (atheists being parents, homosexuality). Why doesn’t god ever intervene anymore? Or did he only like intervening and performing miracles a few thousand years ago when people were too dumb to be skeptical? These inane rationalizations are self-fulfilling. You want something to happen so you pray about it. If it happens, god answered your prayer. If it doesn’t, that’s ok, because it’s just part of “god’s mysterious plan” of which we’re obviously incapable of understanding (because it doesn’t make any @#$%* sense in the first place!). If you did that kind of ridiculous rationalization about any other topic you’d be a candidate for the nuthouse!
And despite what the United States added to our currency in the middle of a Communist scare to try and unite everyone to fight the evil “red” power, this country was never, and will never be, a “Christian country.”
My non-atheist parents wouldn’t approve of it.
They’ve got something against Vermont?
Ha. I had come across that exact article a few days back while exploring the Time archive. If you don’t know it, Time has its full archive going back to 1923 and it’s quite fascinating to read , for example,their cover story on computersin 1965 or JFKin 1957. I hope they keep it free for the long haul because it could become a really valuable resource, for example for providing online references for Wikipedia articles.
If God uses ‘the way of the world’ to make children cry out to him doesn’t that make it his way? Also you have the old ‘God made the world the way it is’ thing on top of that.
Nice to know God likes hearing from molested and beaten children begging for release from their torment though.
It’s an argument I’ve heard before; as an argument for why research into extending the human lifespan shouldn’t be allowed for example. Despair creates faith; therefore despair is a good thing and relieving despair is evil.
It’s always been a basic theme of Christianity that the Faith is more important than ANYTHING else; so if children being molested and abused makes the children turn to Jesus out of hopelessness, then their molestation and abuse is a good thing and part of God’s Plan.