I was wondering.
The word “athiest” means “without God.” A true athiest believes in no deity whatsoever.
It depends, I would guess, on your definition of “religion.” Many forms of Buddhism, for example, do not place a requirement on practictioners of believing in a supernatural being. Therefore, in those forms of Buddhism, it would be perfectly acceptable to be an atheist. However, there are those who would say that Buddhism is not a religion but is rather a philosophy. Splitting hairs in my opinion, but it should be noted.
JOhn.
To sum up, atheists are not part of any religion, christianity or otherwise. If we’ve misunderstood your question, please elaborate.
Atheists can be Buddhist, such as myself. It relies on the belief that Buddha was a man, not a god, and should be looked at like a teacher or mentor but not a holy man. As said before, it’s really splitting hairs whether it’s really a religion or philosophy. I myself lean towards to the latter though.
Well, some of us Christians consider you Atheists to be the beloved children of our Lord.
I don’t know if that meets your criteria for being part of our religion.
Tris
My personal opinion is that atheism is a religion in itself. There is a marked difference between saying “I dont’ believe in a god” and saying “God does not exist”; atheism, as I understand it, adheres to the latter. Atheism is a religion, it’s just that an atheist’s view on the divine is that it doesn’t exist.
In my experience, most people who say they’re atheists are really just people suspending their judgement and waiting for more inspiration or facts before making a decision (as I am doing).
–greenphan
Atheism is a religion? Theism is a religion. Atheism is without religion.
That is agnosticism, not atheism. Atheists are people who made up their minds.
Saltire
To sum up, atheists are not part of any religion …
Well, not strictly. As others have pointed out, there are non-theist religions (though some might define those as philosophies). Also some religious groups - notably the Unitarian Universalists - contain a spread of beliefs among their members, including atheists who nevertheless believe in a broadly Christian moral code.
No. Agnosticism is not indecision. Agnosticism is a positive belief that the question “Does any god exist?” is formally undecidable. Some Agnostics, including myself, feel that the more general question “Is there any metaphysical aspect to the universe?” is also formally undecidable. To repeat myself, Agnosticism is not indecision.
Yes, I get unreasonably annoyed by this.
*Originally posted by Urban Ranger *
**Atheism is a religion? Theism is a religion. Atheism is without religion. **
No, Atheism is “without god”.
IMHO, I’m with greenphan on this one. To declare “there is no god” takes as much faith as to declare “there is a god”. No-one has proved either position. Any convictions formed beyond those supplied by fact are based on faith.
That’s what makes me agnostic. I have seen no evidence to convince me of either Theism or Atheism and do not have the faith to bridge the gap in either direction.
To address to OP: I can’t see how an Atheist could “be part” of any religion that revolves around existance of a god. They are mutually exclusive beliefs. I’d also argue that a religion that doesn’t have a god doesn’t really qualify as such. More of a philosophy.
I could see, however, an agnostic, existing on the fringe of a religion, kind of hanging around waiting to see if anything convincing crops up.
*Originally posted by Some Guy *
No. Agnosticism is not indecision. Agnosticism is a positive belief that the question “Does any god exist?” is formally undecidable.
Agreed, in part. But there is an element of being open to accept evidence, in the unlikely event of it occurring. See, I’m not sure that it is “undecidable”. If I was to be greeted by an entity that proceeded to do convincingly god-like things I don’t think I’d have trouble deciding.
I suppose there’d be some question over what constitutes a genuine ‘god-like’ action. Could a god really prove he/she/it was instrumental in creation of the universe? But there must be a point where the difference between the ability to do amazing things and being a real god becomes largely irrelevant. At least from a puny mortal’s point of view.
But no, being an agnostic does not mean wishy-washy indecision. An Agnostic has decided not to accept the two most obvious and popular answers provided as they presently stand. I think it means actually having thought through the logic of our existance more thoroughly than most. We don’t lack decision, we just lack the jump of faith. Whether that’s a good or bad thing is a matter of opinion.
At this point this thread either becomes a Great Debate or IMHO.
I learned in a philosophy class at the University of Evansville (Indiana) that Taoism is an atheistic religion. Taoists believe that everything (all matter, all energy) is just as holy as everything else. There are books about the way a prudent person lives, but the concept of sin is not a part of it.
I am not an expert on Taoism. This little snapshot leaves a lot out.
Yeah, that’s a difficult one to call, too. I have similar understandings/attitudes/beliefs although I don’t claim Taoism, and sometimes I answer to atheist and sometimes consider myself theistic. God is THAT WHICH IS and everything is an incarnation of God…which is another way of saying that there is no separate God that exists in juxtaposition to a temporal world which is Other than God.
There are at least two kinds of atheist. The one that most people in this thread are labelling all atheists as is known as a “strong atheist” - one who definitively stated “there is no god”. I, however, am a weak atheist:
The weak atheist position does not need a justification - it is the default position. One should not accept a position unless there is some rational reason for supposing it true. For a weak atheist it is sufficient to say: “I don’t know what a god is”, or “I have never heard of a god”. Unless theism can be proved in some way, the weak atheist position is the preferred position. This is often confused with agnosticism.
I originally thought the OP meant “do any other religions call people atheists who don’t believe in their god” but the other interpretations make more sense. One answer might be the Unitarian Universalists, who, in spite of the name meaning ‘one god-all are saved’ include many atheists, buddhists, reform jews, etc.
*Originally posted by AskNott *
**I learned in a philosophy class at the University of Evansville (Indiana) that Taoism is an atheistic religion. Taoists believe that everything (all matter, all energy) is just as holy as everything else. There are books about the way a prudent person lives, but the concept of sin is not a part of it.I am not an expert on Taoism. This little snapshot leaves a lot out. **
That’s not atheistic. That’s pantheistic.
I feel that the question is if there are any “strong” atheists that come from social backgrounds other than Christianity, f.e. how many atheists are there in muslim countries.
IMO, there are many such atheists out there nad most of them are communists or socialists of some sort.
Assuming that people get some say in their self-definition, then there certainly are atheist Christians. Go figure …