That is a pretty big deal. I still say fuck them all. Democrats need to get the senate or don’t…having a traitor on your team because he votes your way on one thing is bullshit. I’m not sure a deal with the devil for that one thing, important as it is, is worth it.
I think McConnell is a truly evil man (Trump isn’t, McConnell is) and I think your support for him says a lot about you.
This seems backwards to me. I would think that voting against your own party base is not how you keep a nine-point lead. But I don’t know W.Va.
I swear, if this was reversed and it was a democratic nominee that was acting the exact same way as Kavanaugh I’d bet my life savings the polled Democrats would indicate they should withdraw the nomination and just nominate another left-leaning judge. I simply can not relate to conservative mindset. I don’t get it. I haven’t for years and it’s just gotten worse.It’s really fucking weird. They are all really fucking weird.
Not weird, just really anti-democratic, corrupt, and hypocritical.
Why would you have concern for them having been raped when you know for a fact they are lying about it?
If at that age I regularly got staggeringly, falling-down drunk, I wouldn’t know that for a fact.
Per the WSJ (behind paywall); the friend who was claimed to be at the party by Prof Ford; Leland Keyser has now stated that she was pressured to change her story by another friend of Prof Ford, Monica McLean, the same lady who Prof Fords ex-boyfriend claims was turtored by her to defeat the polygraph.. No evience that Ford or her legal team were involved.
This is becoming less of a judicial confirmation, more like some Court TV presentation.
I’ll give these “bombshell” claims more credence when they start coming from Keyser herself, and not a “concerned family member” or “people familiar with the matter.”
It was said to the FBI. Of course on its own, simply reaching out is not unlawful, indeed its fairly standard.
In his hypothetical, Evil Economist claims he is actually innocent, so he does, in fact know that.
Also, I regularly got falling-down drunk for 15 or so years, and I can say for certain I didn’t rape anybody. Given the rather idiotic modern views on drunken consent, it’s more likely I was raped, but that’s of course nonsense. The general ignorance here around how alcohol works astounds me. It would seem that I’m about the only person here who’s ever been drunk…
Yup…pretty unprecedented. Republicans really could not care less though. They know Americans have a short attention span and will forget about this in a short time.
“rings hollow”?? No, I think it was a fucking joke, a truly bizarre and downright hilarious self-own.
Another Twitter steal: “I, too, will independently and impartially judge cases brought before me by groups that I believe to be part of a coordinated and well-funded effort to personally destroy me and my family.”
Seriously, the jokes are practically writing themselves out there.
You’re certainly hoping that the three (four? five? don’t forget Manchin and Cory Gardner!) people it’s meant for, won’t just go “WTF?” when they read it.
As the saying goes, hope is not a plan.
It’s certainly been said that his performance last Thursday was for an audience of one.
And it’s been widely acknowledged over the years that various op-eds in major newspapers were really aimed at a handful of powerful people, and the fact that the rest of us got to read it too was incidental. If this really was aimed at just 3-5 people, it’s not really that new a thing.
A 9-point lead will evaporate if he votes No on Kavanaugh? That’s one hell of a lot of West Virginians who otherwise favor Manchin who are seriously invested in Kavanaugh becoming a Justice to the point of being single-issue voters about it.
Since you’d more or less have to assume that most of the people who feel that strongly that Kav must become a Supreme are already in the GOP column, you’re saying that probably nearly 25% of WV residents are pro-Kav single-issue voters.
His hypothetical also involved not being an angry unhinged drunk, so he’s veering away from Kavanaugh there. I was bringing it back home.
You’re not, but your level of certainty isn’t really a level I share with you. I rarely got incredibly drunk; if someone told me I’d done something terrible when I did, I’d pay attention, and certainly wouldn’t make any sort of claims about my memory as though I was a superman who wasn’t affected by alcohol in the way it affected mere mortals.
Manchin votes with the Dems a little more than half the time.
If he were to lose, his replacement would vote with the Dems only slightly above 0% of the time.
He’s about as good as it gets for us, from a state like WV.
I lived in Bristol, VA for five years. It’s in far SW VA, and I was represented by a Dem Congressman, Rick Boucher. He was a Blue Dog, but he was still one of the most liberal people in Congress, relative to his district, according to 538 when his career and 538’s existence overlapped. He eventually lost in the Tea Party wave of 2010, and his GOP replacement of course votes with the Dems almost never.
She was pressured to change her story? Kinda meaningless by itself. And was this in a news story, or an op-ed? People say all sortsa shit in op-eds that wouldn’t pass the scrutiny of a news editor.
Well, that tears it; Leland Keyser should not be appointed to the Supreme Court!
…that’s what we’re debating, right?
Which doesn’t say at all whether his vote - even if it is unpopular - will sway the voters. It certainly may but there are a ton of issues that people have opinions on but won’t sway them for deciding their elected officials.
For example, Americans overwhelmingly and across the political spectrum have support for certain ways to tackle the gun violence problem in our country but they keep voting for the Republicans who keep killing such bills. And traditionally court nominations have not moved the needle much (I’d argue that they should, but that’s not the reality).
A poll that shows that how Manchin votes on Kavanaugh would impact how West Virginians would vote would be needed to answer this question. This poll doesn’t show that.
Any last bets about what’ll happen today? I’m sticking with my prediction that there will be no vote this morning (EDT).