Can someone explain what the deal is with the "mortgage crisis" (USA)?

It seems that I see on TV and in the newspapers so much about a looming or already evident crisis in mortgages, but I don’t quite understand what the hubbub is all about.

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[li]I have a mortgage. I pay it as scheduled each month (plus a little bit extra toward principal). It is not now, nor has it ever been, late (furiously knocking on wood). Does the mortgage crisis affect me?[/li][li]Why are mortgage lenders so eager to make bad loans? If they don’t get paid back, how do the banks earn money?[/li][li]Even if these lenders go under, why is that a crisis? Shouldn’t poorly run businesses falter and fail while well-run businesses succeed?[/li][li]Does the mortgage crisis affect Americans who do not have mortgages but do have deposit accounts in banks that make mortgages?[/li][li]Does any of this mean it is a good time or a bad time to refinance a well managed mortgage? Should the crisis not even be a factor in my deciding whether or not to pursue a refinance? Is this a good or bad time to apply for a new mortgage?[/li][li]What are the political ramifications? Have political leaders (the president, congresspeople) brought about, exacerbated, or profited from this crisis? Did they ignore opportunities to prevent the crisis? Is there a political party or ideology that could be or should be blamed?[/li][li]Why is the federal government trying to solve the mortgage crisis? Is it their problem to solve?[/li][/ol]

I know that some of this is subject to opinion, but I thought that enough of it was fact based to belong in GQ. Thanks, y’all.

Not directly, no. However, if the crisis continues, it will be bad for the economy as a whole. Still, it is not catastrophic.

Mortgage lenders were eager to make high-interest loans to persons with poor or little credit because they wanted high returns on their investments. Many of these loans were in the form of adjustable-rate mortgages, where the interest rate floats a few points above the rates set by the federal reserve. When interest rates began to rise, more and more people became unable to keep up with the payments. Worse, when housing prices began to fall, lenders lost even more money when they foreclosed on the delinquent properties, because they couldn’t sell them for enough to cover the loan. Finally, a large number of bad loans went to real-estate speculators who invested in construction projects that ran out of money, or flipping projects that were unable to sell due to the market collapse or just general stupidity.

I wouldn’t call it a crisis, but it’s a big pain in the ass. If a lender fails, the mortgages have to be sold to someone (like other banks) and eventually foreclosed upon. The bigger banks don’t necessarily want to buy the delinquent mortgages because they’re unsure if they could make any money selling the properties. There is also a huge glut of housing inventory in a number of markets, making it nearly impossible for anyone to sell their house at a reasonable price. That can lead to even more foreclosures. (Well, Mr. Banker, I wanted to move to a smaller place after I lost my job, but I just couldn’t sell the damn house, and now I’m out of money. Sorry.)

Yes, in the case that those banks fail. Most deposits up to $100,000 are insured by the FDIC, so they won’t lose money. But their accounts will have to be either sold to another bank that’s still solvent, or the FDIC will cut them a check. In the case of banks that do not completely fail but which were affected, that means lower interest rates on savings accounts and investment products, since the banks need to save more cash.

That depends on your personal circumstances, of course, but IMHO it is an OK, but not great, time to refinance. Interest rates are up, but there is still plenty of competition for lending to people with good credit.

You can blame “free market economics” if you want. You could blame dubious mortgage originators who sell packages of mediocre loans to Wall Street, and you could blame Wall Street for buying them, thus encouraging the market of crappy loans. You could also blame stupid idiots who can’t learn to live within their means and buy houses they can’t afford.

IMHO, no. But governments have a way of interjecting themselves into whatever crappy situation is making the news at the present moment. Bush has outlined a voluntary agreement with some of the bigger mortgage investors for freezing the rates on certain ARMs in an effort to stave off further foreclosures. Kind-of seems like something the mortgage investors would have come up with themselves, anyway, but now George gets to stick his face on the idea. Whatever floats your boat.

Okay, I’m gonna talk out of my ass here since there are no other replies yet. LOL I trust you’ll get a more informed set of answers shortly.

Off the top of my head, from reading about it a little, and from what I’ve heard here’s my thoughts:

1 - Banks might be in a hurry to make risky loans because they can rape those customers since they’ll accept more expensive terms to offset the reasonable suspicion of possible default; I get offers all the time for secured credit cards that have huge fees and interest rates that I believe are typically targeted at people that they expect probably can’t or won’t pay on time but at least they’ve gotten a huge amount up front; sort of like buying a crappy used car from a shady business that will do financing; but only after you put down some amount of money so large that it offsets the chance of you not paying back anyway like $5,000 down on a car selling for $7,500 that’s actually worth $3,500.

2 - I think it affects the entire economy insofar as the financial institutions and their mortgages being bought and sold ultimately affects wall street and becomes some kind of financial domino effect, or is perceived to be and when the national economy is understood as being threatened, the government jumps in. They’ve bailed out airlines when they saw it as a national issue.

That’s about as much of it as I can comment on. And not even sure of that. LOL

Edit: I see there was a reply that came in actually and put the high risk thing more succinctly.

I know 3 people who bought a home in the last 5 years and had mortgage problems. All 3 bought houses when their careers were at a peak and all 3 figured out the max they could spend and bought the houses and got the loans based on that amount.

All 3 saw their big bonuses dry up. One lost their house (their were evicted as in having the sheriff and bank show up and move your stuff to the curb) another is just about to that point, the third made major lifestyle changes and was able to hold out and eventually refinances.

My sister and her husband figured out how much they could reasonable spend and figured their adjustable rate was going to go up and planned for it.

I think alot of people just don’t consider what could go wrong and for various reasons, the banks don’t either.

Closing fees, mostly. Most of the banks don’t hold the mortgages anyway; they sell them to investors, so there is no risk if they make a bad loan. The investors unwisely reasoned that home values would continue to rise forever, and underestimated the risk on the bundle of mortgages they bought.

Over here in the UK we had a very large bank, Northern Rock, nearly go under.

The main reason for this was that the bank itself couldn’t borrow money in the markets to continue its operations. This was because US sub-prime loans had become mixed up in various funds; the banks weren’t sure where the sub-prime liability was hidden, so became loath to lend anything to anyone.

One of the other factors in the fiasco was that Northern Rock itself held various sub-prime mortgages, which increased its individual exposure.

Finally, people who had savings in the bank realised that, unlike the US, their funds were not protected by insurance/government, so they withdrew their funds, further exacerbating the bank’s liquidity problems.

So, this scenario is unlikely to be duplicated in the US, but something similar to it could theoretically happen - especially because the US has a lot more small, privately-owned local banks than the UK (where the general population usually saves/borrows from large, national banks) and thus the scope for mismanagement of individual small banks is wider.

In the UK, and very likely the US, a buoyant housing market brings in tow increased spending in all the goods and services that go to furnish and equip houses.

If folk have little money to spare due to the higher rates, then all those other companies supplying those goods and services will suffer.

Since we could go further, lets do so, that companies supplying goods and services that do well under bouyant housing markets, will suffer when conditions turn for the worse and thus will start fo contract and shed staff, this in turn can feed into the housing market, especially if there is a marked housing recessions/devaluation, add to that that construction will decrease, alnd values will at the very least go static and may fall, and you can see how a serious downturn in the housing market can have wider effects.

This is also predicated on the position that there had to be a reason for those interest rates to go up, often it is to clamp down on inflation, but whatever, this will also have an effect on the economy.

Very funny, but to the point:

I am a perfect example of this problem. My wife and I bought a house 6 years ago, due to not having perfect credit, we were given what is called a subprime loan, it’s another name for an adjustable rate mortgage that starts of with low payments and the payments increase based on the prime interest rate. These loans were very popular and a whole lot of folks, my wife and I included, were able to buy homes valued at a lot more than what we really could afford. Shortly after we bought the house, the economy started to falter a bit and the prime rate was bumped up. This little bump caused my house payment to increase a bit over $300 a month. Over the next 4 years my house payments went up another $300. What started out at $1100 a month was in 5 years $1728 a month. How many people can afford to have their mortgage payment go up 36% in 5 years? My pay went up about 4% over the same period. Combine this with my wife getting hurt in an auto accident and not being able to work and soon we could not afford the house payments. We also did not have an escrow account to pay property taxes, we had to pay these too. The exact same thing has happened to many folks, people are losing their homes do to skyrocketing payments and the inability to pay property taxes. One sad part about this whole mortgage “crisis” is the fact that the current administration in Washington DC has saw fit to help the banks by cutting the prime rate because the banks are losing money on many of these loans. But those that lost their homes have not had any help of any kind.

The ‘credit crunch’ makes lenders less eager to loan money – not only to individuals, but also to businesses. If a business is unable to get credit, they may not be able to do what they need to do to continue. Businesses have credit reports just like consumers do. Amalgamated Fluff is the country’s largest supplier of fluff. Tony The Tailor Inc buys Amalgamated Fluff’s pocket lint for the suits he makes. But he’s slow to pay. He’s had NET 30 terms for a long time, but he’s consistently slow to pay. So AF changes his terms to cash-in-advance. Tony The Tailor wants to buy fabric from Fabrico. Fabrico pulls a business credit report on TTT and finds that he’s slow to pay, so Fabrico sets terms to COD. Now instead of having 30 days to pay (and the possibility of letting it slide), TTT has to pay upfront.

But TTT doesn’t have enough cash, so it needs to cut expenses. They lay off half of their workers. The workers cut back on their expenses, so the companies they buy from make less money. Some of them have to defer their payments, and after a while their business credit reports aren’t looking so good…

This sort of thing happens every day, and it’s not a national problem. Businesses fail. But the mortgage situation has made the money supply tighter. For the average responsible homeowner it might make it more difficult or more expensive to borrow money. If enough people don’t have access to credit, then the businesses that depend on consumer spending will be making less money. If the businesses make less money and it makes it more difficult for them to get credit from their suppliers, then they might have to cut costs and people might lose their jobs. And so on.

So we can criticise people who made poor home loan choices or who were greedy. But if the situation expands into businesses then we could have a recession.

Depends on when you bought your house. A consequence or cause of the crisis, depending on how you look at it, is the unprecedented run up in housing prices ove the last five to seven years. Often times when there’s a bubble pops, there’ll be an over-correction and prices will swing very low. Some experts are predicting a return to 1999 prices or worse. At the very least, a lot of new home builders have a lot of inventory they’re eager to get rid of and can cut the prices to rock bottom, undercutting sellers of existing homes.

Cost to you? If you’re not moving, no problem. But, if you need to relocate, it may be very difficult to sell your house and you may even have to bring money to the table.

The financial wizards came up with a new way of slicing up bundles of mortgages into groupings called tranches which were then sold to investors. They convinced themselves that this financial alchemy eliminated the risk of mortgages gong bad (since these were groups of mortgages, what’re the odds that they all go bad? :rolleyes: ) and they were marketed as stable investments and veyr popular. With a eager market for mortgages (that also removed thier risk), banks started stepping up thier mortgage marketing and lowering requirements to make even more loans. Mortgage brokers earned their commission on selling a mortgage so they had financial incentive to “fudge” a little with very few penalties and there was a lot of fraud going on by both the brokers and the buyers. Plus, plenty of people like racer72 were approved for mortgages they should have never qualified for.

IMO, yes, they should. But the problem is so large and widespread it can be very painful for many people.

If they have deposits exceeding the federally insured amount. More globally, massive bank failure will stress the government’s coffers and add to a generally depressed economy.

Banks have finally started tightening up loan qualifications so it’s more difficult to get a mortgage. 100% loans are pretty much gone. You also can’t get the 80/15/5’s anymore, you’d have to get a 95/5 and pay PMI. Interests aren’t at their lowest but they’re not bad historically. If you have a down payment or enough equity that you don’t need PMI and you have good credit scores, there’s no reason not to apply for one tho’. It’s not a huge factor.

During the housing bubble, it was obvious to many that things were out of control but the mainstream media, the government, and realty groups all had a vested interest in only reporting positive news while the economy was artificially booming. Greenspan is very responsible: he lowered rates to give the economy a “bump” after the dot com crash and kept lowering it. The low interest rates made specualtion attractive and was not a financially prudent move.

The bailout plan that’s out now is laughable. Only a very small percentage of mortgage holders qualify and what it’s relaly doing is paying lip service to the problem and trying to find a qay to help out Bush’s banking cronies. (this is obviously opinion)

IMO, too many people are in houses they could never hope to afford. It’s sad and it’ll be painful but there will have to be foreclosures. The economy can’t go up forever, you have to have periods of contraction, you just hope they’ll be relatively painless. This one won’t be. A huge amount of money was transferred from the pockets of ordinary working Americans into the pockets of bankers and wall street types. It was the scam of the century and we’ll be paying for it for a while.

There are several factors which make this an unusual crisis rather than merely the usual run of greed.

A normal downtown in the economy hits most of the country more or less equally. Recently, though, the housing market in the U.S. was divided into areas that were extremely hot and areas that were practically dead. In the hot areas, developers were throwing up huge subdivisions because of the perceived demand from people who thought they could make money not merely by buying a new house but by buying a house and then quickly selling it to someone else. For a while this was actually true. Many speculators entered the market. And so did legitimate buyers who were trying for once to get into something good at the right time.

The rule of thumb is that a foreclosure drives down the value of other homes within an eighth of a mile by 1%. Normally this is insignificant. Not today. In certain subdivisions, whole streets may have a number of foreclosed houses on them. If you have 20 nearly houses in foreclosure, the survivors have their home value decreased by 20%. What happens when they need to legitimately sell? Often they can’t at all. Few people want to live on a street with foreclosed homes, which are not well kept up, and if they do want to buy, getting a foreclosed home at a bargain trumps minus 20% for a lived-in home.

Whole sections of formerly well-to-do suburbs, therefore, are seeing the equivalent of inner city blight - lowered taxes but increasing demand for police and fire services - with no hope of getting out from under for years. This is a long-term crisis that hits innocent people, something that always draws cries for government intervention.

The flip side is the financial industry. Their purpose in life is to reduce risk and increase return. Normally these two goals are incompatible. The safest investments carry a low return because not much incentive is needed. High risk demands a commensurately greater return to tempt investors to take the chance.

Mortgages historically were a known quantity. They were safe, because they were only given to people whose credit histories and future ability to pay were investigated. Your local bank normally sold off mortgages to larger companies. That got them their money right away but were freed from the clerical work of collecting payments, sending out monthly bills, and going after delinquents, which were subject to enormous economies of scale. So your local bank probably isn’t much affected at all by the defaults.

The bright boys (and in all the articles I’ve read I can’t remember seeing a single female name) at the larger firms looked around them at the red-hot housing markets and saw home prices zooming upward. They saw an opportunity. Presumably delinquencies would be very low even to poor credit risks because even morons could get their money back by selling their houses for more than they paid. So why not resell these secondary mortgages as an investment? You suddenly have the magic formula: high returns with low risk.

Companies sprang up that dealt in such investments. They weren’t morons, though, and they knew that their customers, people who got into the latest, greatest, and most complicated financial ventures, weren’t either. They weren’t going to take just anybody’s word for how safe these investments were.

They did what they always did. Turned to firms like Standard & Pooh’s and Moody’s, who sole job it is to rate investment risk. And those firms, in an apparent abdication of common sense, looked at these ridiculously bad mortgages made in an obvious bubble, and said, hey, looks good to us. They gave them the usual assortment of ratings, but even their lowest ratings were what’s called investment grade, which is a normal guarantee of relative safety.

The investment companies sold off their mortgages by rating grade (creating the tranches, meaning slices, that tremorviolet noted) and everybody was happy, with huge returns pouring in.

But the investment gradings were wildly overblown. The lowest ones tanked immediately. Even the highest rated ones are sinking fast.

So who’s to blame now? Standard & Poor for bad ratings? They were rating something that never existed before in history, which makes it rough to get right.

The investment buyers? They’re rich and presumably know how to take care of themselves. But they were mislead.

The investment firms? They saw an opportunity and thought they were providing a fair service, backed up with what normally was high grade stuff.

The banks for reselling the mortgages? Spreading risk around and raking in the returns is what they do and how they stay in business.

What happens if they don’t stay in business? The old saying was that if you owed the bank $100 they owned you. If you owed the bank $100,000,000 you owned the bank. (You can see how old this saying is by the piddling numbers.) Same thing today on a much larger scales. If banks owing $100,000,000,000 fail then the problem ripples outward throughout the economy and, same as the houseowners, sinks entirely innocent people along with the greedy guilty.

Where do you draw the line? Who steps in where? How to determine who’s innocent and who’s guilty? No two people will agree on any answer.

But since the higher rate on adjustable rate mortgages take 18-24 months to kick in, and the dumbest, riskiest loans were being made up through June of this year, we haven’t seen anywhere near the worst yet. That’s why everybody panicking. It’s already awful, and everybody wants to keep the bottom from dropping out, especially in an election year.

That’s why the political pressure is overwhelming and will not be ignored. And who’s to say it should be ignored? I’m just glad this is one problem I don’t have to answer for.

Exapno Mapcase, That was a truly superb summary of the situation.

seconded.
thanks
course now it makes it clear that not only is the worst still to come, it will effect me as well. Sigh. Change is something we all live with.

This is the part I hadn’t heard before. Can you cite that claim? n.b.: I’m not saying I think you’re wrong, I’d just like to see a primary source reference.

Thank you for the excellent replies. We bought our house in 2001 with less than stellar credit. Instead of getting a sub-prime loan, which was never discussed, we got an FHA loan. Due to the sellers need to get out of the house, we paid slightly more than what they owed on it. The sale price was significantly less than the tax appraisal value. A few years later, we had the house appraised (and the amount was $77K more than we paid) and traded some of the equity into making improvements to the house and in getting a traditional mortgage, without the FHA involvement. The original mortgage and our current mortgage have both been paid in excess of the minimum payment and our credit has steadily improved to a FICO of ~700.

Why were these people who needed easier-to-get mortgages unable to get an FHA loan like we were?

Here’s another aspect of the problem: people like my FIL saw their house values go up hugely and decided that the equity was free money. My in-laws had a nice little house and an affordable mortgage, but they kept refinancing and taking money out of the house. Soon they had run up a huge debt and their mortgage was about twice as large as it had been–quite a bit larger than they could afford to pay. They lost the house.

Clearly this is idiotic behavior, but some people will always engage in such behavior if they have the chance. When house values rose so high so quickly, and mortgage brokers were so willing to refinance, many people suddenly had the chance to behave idiotically.

(I’m not blaming the banks for my FIL’s behavior. But they were scratching each other’s backs, so to speak–each side made it possible for the other to get further into debt than should have been reasonable.)

Here’s one. It refers to a Wall St. Journal article that you need a subscription to see. I’ve read similar stuff in the Times, though.

Fortune magazine has had a number of excellent articles covering this, and I based a good deal of what I said from what I’ve learned from them.

Subprime: Let the finger-pointing begin! by Peter Eavis is, I believe, a slightly shortened version of the original, though my memory might be wrong. He looks at various participants in the mess and assigns proportional blame. Ratings agencies are on page 6. Whether you agree with who is to blame or how much, it’s a neat summary.

The ratings firms have even been called before Congress. See Credit rating firms grilled on Capitol Hill, by Grace Wong and David Ellis.

Thanks for the praise of my summary, all. I’ve spent a lot of time trying to understand what happened because in hindsight it clearly makes no sense at all. Who in their right minds, after all, would hand out NINJA loans: “No Income, No Job and No Assets.” And even if they did - because mortgage brokers were given bonuses for the higher fees that these loans would supposedly bring in - why would supposedly sophisticated Wall St. experts buy into the hype?

The ratings agencies provide the hinge for all this to turn on. AAA-rated securities are the best there are. For most of history they were as safe as U.S. treasury bonds. You’ve have to be an idiot to pass up an opportunity to invest in a high return AAA loan. It’s like ignoring hundred dollar bills wafting through the air. So if many of the re-re-re-sold loans were given AAA ratings it’s because somebody fell down along the way.

There’s no excuse for the rest of the fiasco. People have been calling this a bubble for years. The loans never should have been made and way too much deception and possibly outright fraud went into their making, along with a good helping of pure greed on all sides. It’s easier to say in retrospect. Just like in the Internet bubble, those who got out too early were excoriated at the time for leaving piles of money on the table there for the grabbing.

However, the problem should have been confined much earlier to a much smaller set of players. The whole system is endangered by the failures of the giants. And they also would never have gotten in as deep without someone providing too much deception and possibly fraud.

I’m not pointing fingers. I don’t know enough. Whenever there’s blame to spread around plenty of people wind up hip deep in it. But it all seems inexplicable without the detail of supposedly safe investments proving to be toxic. It’s a pretty technical and seemingly detached element, so it hasn’t gotten much attention outside the business press. Knowing about it certainly helped me understand the mess better, though.

Correct me if I am wrong, but one the individual level, isn’t part of the reason people were willing to get into loans they couldn’t barely afford, sometimes with balloon payments they could never afford, because they figured the house would rapidly gain value and they’d be able to use that equity to refinance into a better situation?