Can someone tell the creationists...

No, I think your memory must be incorrect. If you can name your textbook, and point out the section you’re talking about that would help, but I won’t accept your statement without proof. As a scientist, I would fully expect to there to be a scientific explanation for abiogenesis, but we don’t understand what that is yet. I don’t think that scientists shy away from the subject, thinking that “God did it”, but we just haven’t cracked that nut yet.

Having skipped the thread, I’ll just add that it seems that lately rooting for the Ole Miss Rebels (my alma mater) equals rooting for Gov. Haley Barbour.

Which now seems to equal rooting for Creationism. :mad:

Down here in the buckle of the bible belt, we atheists are Five Bucks Each. (as opposed to a dime a dozen baptists).

Ole Miss != Fundamentalist. :mad:

Ahh, there we have it. The lazy, unthinking left. Case closed. :rolleyes: As for that text book, I want the name, author, and (if you have it) the direct quote that manages to conflate creation, abiogenesis and evolution together. Either the book was crap, or you “misremember” it, to be as charitable as possible.

On the one hand, we haven’t observed abiogenesis, nor do we have an abundance of evidence for it (such as an extensive fossil record for evolution), so it’s hard to see why a textbook would put these two topics together.

On the other hand, I read somewhere that the Earth was created about 6,000 years ago and ‘if we are descended from apes, how come apes exist?!’ and there are human footprints embedded across dinosaur tracks and ‘Godless US haters’ made it all up anyway. I don’t think it was in a School texbook…