Can The Dark Knight sink Titanic?

This shows that there was a high curiosity rate for a sequel to a movie not everyone saw in the theater the first time. While the first Shrek & Pirates obviously did well, they also had an opportunity to garner an even larger fan base after the home video release. So people who didn’t fork out money for the first were more than willing to do so on the second, poorer reviews notwithstanding.

No, it’s not valid if it’s not accurate. And it’s not.

Mummy 3, released this weekend, opened in second place to the three week old DK.

With nothing of note out for a fortnight, Dark Knight should hold the top spot till at least then. Next weekend, with nothing really playing, what do you think people will head for (and hey, weekends are date nights, gotta go somewhere, and the movies is a top choice for most people); The Mummy, which due to poisonous word of mouth will probably fall like a stone, or hey, fuck it, lets go see Batman again, that was aawesome. I expect next weeks total to actually be higher than this weekends 50-odd million haul.

It’s still not gonna touch the 1.8 billion global haul that Titanc pulled in, but I would expect it to break 500million in the US, and 1 Billion worldwide.

For some reason, I too am fascinated by its success, commercially and critically (I’ve been following its placing on the iMDB ratings boards… not the most reliable of sources, but hey; its the people that vote). I just feel good that all this success is befalling such a good movie, after years of watching worthy movies get shit on commercially, while rubbish hits the motherload, thus spawning only more rubbish.

The question is, what way will TDK’s success affect comic book movies in the future? Will they start to mature too? I can only assume that producers loking at the success of TDK will copy its template, leading to more rounded, mature and altogether better treatments of our comic heroes, and no more committee-ruined cash in rushed-to-production hack jobs (x-men 3, I’m looking at you).

Pineapple Express will beat it this weekend (and if not, then Tropic Thunder the following week). However, competition is largely overrated as a factor in the box office, as you aren’t drawing from the same pool of moviegoers each weekend. The box office pie expands, for the most part, depending on what’s coming out, although there can be some effects (notably, TDK took a huge chunk out of Hellboy II). But the people wanting to see Mummy 3 last weekend probably already saw The Dark Knight, or never wanted to in the first place.
Movies generally follow their own independent paths after their opening weekends.

Darn! I have a 1st date Saturday to go see Dark Night.

Think I should just suggest we rent a DVD and stay in…say Titanic or something?

I’ve never even heard of “Pineapple Express.” I haven’t seen a single trailer or anything. :confused:

“The Dark Knight” looks pretty sure to break into the #2 spot, but I doubt it’ll take in an additional $100 million after taking second place to beat “Titanic”'s massive $600 mil haul.

My grandparents went to see Titanic. That might not sound like a big deal, but the last movie they saw in the theater prior to Titanic was The Apple Dumpling Gang. :wink:

What, pray tell, wasn’t accurate? That I feel a particular way based on what I’ve learned of a subjective matter?

Good luck disproving that.

Its the next movie from the “knocked up”/“superbad” guy, it will do good but not great. Titanic was in theaters over a year after it launched, it will be very hard for TDK to stay there long enough to catch up.

As others have noted, “Titanic” was a strange case. Remember, for months before its release, most of the press and buzz was quite negative. All you kept reading and hearing was “It’s waaaay over budget” or “It’s an expensive fiasco” or “Cameron is going to bankrupt the studio” or "It’s another ‘Heaven’s Gate.’ "

It wasn’t several weeks AFTER “Titanic” debuted that word of mouth made it a blockbuster.

I wonder where it’s at adjusted for inflation. Ticket prices have doubled since Titanic, and gone into orbit since Gone With the Wind.
Edit: Ahh, it’s #67, This movie is big, but it’s not exactly making history.

Look who got the last laugh there.

That it was a mediocre movie. You stated that as a fact, not “I didn’t care for it.” When you say, flat-out, that it’s a mediocre movie and that’s why it won’t break Titanic’s record, you’re using a standard of measure that most people wouldn’t agree with, therefore your judgement of the movie in question is meaningless to most people.

I wouldn’t, not on a first date. Take her out somewhere, the staying in can come later. First date “stay in and watch a DVD” sends up warning flags IMHO. Let that slide for a few dates.

Enjoy,
Steven

Are they going to go see The Dark Knight?

Yes and no.

The industry talk was that it was a stinker. Mostly because it was supposed to come out for the July 4th weekend. Everyone knew it would be pushed back but when the date went from July to December, most industry people thought it must be a total bomb.

That decision, to move it back months instead of two weeks is what made the movie a huge success. It gave Cammeron time. Time to edit. Time to finish FX. Something JC rarely has had when doing a film. (Remember the ending of the theatrical version of The Abyss?)

Now something was going on that the studio didn’t do, and the industry really hadn’t picked up upon. The internet. There were many websites and messageboards talking about Titanic, both the film and the actual ship. These were kind of large and very busy and even without help from the studio, generated a lot of interest in the film. Along about Thanksgiving, the industry started to turn on it’s perception of the film. The new trailers were very well recieved. So people thought it would do well. Just not as well as it did.

And how many times did you see Titanic? :wink:

A few.

But back then I didn’t pay to see movies. I worked for Paramount Pictures Domestic Distribution at the time. (so I know a bit about how this went down)

Did that actually confuse you? Do I really have to preface what’s clearly an opinion with “In my opinion…”?

Well, saying “because it sucks” to the question “Will it make a lot of money?” is a very flawed answer because it is a very minority opinion among the moviegoing public. So, no confusion, just a :dubious: