I explained my position in my first two posts. Whether you think it’s flawed or not is fine, but it doesn’t justify RikWriter’s response.
No, they both passed away a number of years ago. But I can honestly state that they would not see TDK even if they were in the best of health.
That song that goes on and on helped too! 
Of course it did. You’re responding that it won’t break Titanic’s record because it’s a mediocre movie. That would make the assertion that enough people think it’s a mediocre movie to keep them from seeing it repeatedly or even once. That obviously isn’t the case, demonstrably so. You may think it is a mediocre movie, and you have every right to that opinion, but to state it as a REASON for the actions of OTHER PEOPLE is a counterfactual statement.
The movie’s been dropping by a significant percentage in total intake week-to-week. And I still believe a large portion of the populous feels similar to how I do. Titanic this movie is not.
Incorrect on both counts.
The Dark Knight’s dropoff has been about even with other blockbusters in 2008. It is not dropping “significantly” faster than other similar movies. And it’s weekday numbers are considerably better than other 2008 blockbusters. Which means it still has a shot at $500 million+ and an outside chance at a Titanic challenge.
Also, look at any movie review site, the general public loves The Dark Knight. Your opinion is not only in the minority, but it is in the superminority.
Yes, I’m sure that the Dark Knight topping the IMDB’s “best of all time” list will stand perpetually and is absolutely reflective of what the masses think. :rolleyes:
But you don’t understand–his evidence is anecdotal! That’s 4 whole syllables!
Paging Dorothy and Toto! We’ve already got the Straw Man right here!
What Strawman? He said “look at any movie review site” which I did. It’s also pretty evident that any movie that has a built-in fan base, such as Batman, draws undue positive attention upon release. Over time the score will settle at something noticeably lower than it is now.
Did I say anything about the IMDB’s Top 250 list (which for the most part is a damn accurate listing of great movies)? No, I didn’t. I said movie review sites. As in professional critics. As in people who are paid to evaluate movies. As in 94% of the nation’s critics think it’s a great movie.
I guess they all must be lying.
Nobody said that DK would top the IMDB perpetually, and nobody said that it is absolutely reflective of the taste of the masses.
But a year from now, it will still be in the Top 50 (since 3 years later, its predecessor is still in the Top 100), so I’ll take the imperfect, but somewhat representative, opinion of 200K voters over the “friend-of-my-friend-out-of-my-ass” argument you’re so happy to present as proof.
First of all, what you originally posted was “look at any movie review site, the general public loves The Dark Knight.” How isn’t the IMDB a “movie review” site? It’s a website about movies, and features user-reviews. That aside…
Perhaps we simply disagree, but I do not consider movie reviewers to be an accurate source for what the “general public” thinks, as supported by the gross disparity between many of the top-earning films of all time (Episodes 1 and 3, for example) and their average scores received from critics.
Perhaps I misspoke earlier (though I don’t recall doing explicitly such), but I never intended for it to my statements to serve as “proof” (contrary to what my hard writing style may have otherwise implied). I was merely musing outloud in regards to my opinion on the matter based on the anecdotal evidence I had/have.
And I still feel that many viewers (which, imo, aren’t necessarily reflected in web poll and review-compilation sites) were disappointed by the film, and will affect the total box office potential the film may have otherwise had.
I’m not denying it’s a success financially, but what I am saying is that The Dark Knight has nothing on titanic, whether it comes to total gross, widespread appeal, or ability to stand the test of time.
I was under the distinct impression that Titanic was NOT standing the test of time. Many people I know seem to be embarassed they were caught up in the whole hoopla surrounding it at the time and are rather shocked at the exact amount of money Titanic made relative to the rest of the top grossing movies of all-time.
You’re right–that “disappointment” is going to limit DK to only the #3 or 4 all-time position. :rolleyes:
I was one of the first people in this thread to argue that Titanic was essentially unbeatable. But this has nothing to do with the demerits of Batman holding it back (as you still continue to argue rather baselessly) and everything to do with how the Cameron film had an essentially broader appeal in a release environment that was much more favorable for such a record being set.
Nobody’s asking you to like the film. But if you’re going to state that a “large part” of the population believes the same thing, and that they won’t be seeing it again and will spread poor word-of-mouth about the film–all completely contrary to existing evidence (including box office figures you’re happy to distort), you need to come up with something better than a “feeling”.
Well, it’s another subjective matter, one of which I don’t care enough about to argue.
No I don’t because I don’t care if you think what I believe has merit of not. I don’t mean that to insult you, but I’ve come to realize that there’s little point in defending said feeling any further (and honestly, I don’t know why I even bothered as much as I did).
You’re completely correct. People were so disappointed by this film that there’s been no repeat viewing and is doing paltry at the box office. Oh wait… No, people were so disappointed in this film that the reviews have been overwhelmingly negative. Oh wait… No, um uh, I got it. You didn’t like the film so therefore most people didn’t like the film. Yeeeeah, that makes sense.
That’s not what I said.