Can we get rid of "retard" next?

Yes.

And the people using those words can suffer the consequences and be reviled as they should be.

My apologies, you meant “retarded” I read “stupid”, I though you/we were still on the ‘every word for stupid was used officially’.

Actually, I could say that, and more or less did in almost those words.

I don’t have to invoke a slur against a third party to do so.

I would advise that using such hyperbole as “attack of the vapors” actually undercuts your argument far more than the internet points you win in your head would suggest.

And yes, gaming communities are full of toxicity, we should not strive to be like them.

Hehe, yeah, just say “hysterical”!

Do you consider an IQ of 70 smart? Average? Stupid?

Can you try talking out of just one side of your mouth or a moment?

The n-word is not banned in public. All that happens is that people avoid it because they don’t want to be reviled, as you say they should be.

You are on one hand, saying that these words being unacceptable is what leads to the end of the world as we know it, and on the other, saying that people should find these words to be unacceptable.

Actually, black people use the word a great deal. It is prevalent in our pop culture. Music, movies…it’s everywhere and super common. It’s nowhere near as taboo as you would have “retarded” to be.

I know many people with sub 70 IQ’s, and they are wonderful people. I don’t expect them to be solving Reiman’s Theorem anytime soon, but that’s not what makes a person valuable.

Ah, the old, “they use it, so why can’t I?” argument. That’s one that I wouldn’t mind the mods retiring along with 9/11 threads.

People in a group referred to by a word do have more freedom to use a word than those outside. Many reasons for this, but a large one is inoculation, to reduce the sting when it is used in hate.

Do you think that there is any difference between two gay lovers calling each other “faggot”, and someone yelling “faggot” at them as they walk down the street holding hands?

Did I say that? Nope.

You said that.

Oh hey! Look at that! Context!

See my second post in this thread. (Post #8)

You brought up that black people use the word among themselves. What was your point in doing so?

It’s not taboo for them to use it, it is taboo for a white guy like me to do so.

Right, and I was pointing out the context that you seemed to be missing.

Context.

Something you are missing.

I mean, are you claiming that you have a sub 70 IQ, and therefore can use the word “retarded” without it being taboo?

If not, then I’m not sure you know what the word “context” means.

That’s not a cite for

So obvious racists didn’t get repeatedly elected during the time when such words were in common public speech and writing?

This Lee Atwater business is an astonishingly foolish confusion of causality, unfortunately common among certain sectors of the right.

No: stigmatizing the n-word in public did not help racists. It wasn’t something that helped them, it was something they had to work around. They managed to work around it, absolutely, through dog-whistles; but that just shows that racist politicians won’t roll over at the first sign of resistance.

Nobody thought they would. The point of stigmatizing the n-word wasn’t to destroy racism once and for all. It was to stigmatize a specific racist behavior.

Sure, racists complain about that, under the guise of “political correctness” or “wokeness” or whatever term they’ve most recently adopted. That’s one way they fight back.

It’s absolutely bizarre to point at bigots fighting back and to conclude that we therefore shouldn’t stigmatize bigotry.

Certainly not unprecedented, however. Peace for our time.

It is to laugh. That is simply an excuse for that movement.

And “Woke”.

On Amazon, there are two cool UK TV series “The Outlaws” and “Cuffs”. There are dozens and dozens of one * reviews complaining that the shows are “woke propaganda”, clearly some Conservative Talk moron has railed on about these shows (there are Black actors in a leading role, and gay characters! )

Let me clarify that? I think you are talking ON-LINE gaming communities, because D&D and board games are not like that at all at all. You’d be banned in a hot second on most of those gaming communities.

Correct. TTRPG communities are an entirely different kettle of fish.

Tee hee.

But surely you don’t want to hold up the notoriously toxic gamer community as some sort of standard? A community so toxic that women who want to play games routinely pretend to be men? A community so toxic that it’s inability to deal with criticism dominated the news for months? That gamer community?

Hee hee heeeee.