I’m on the fence about many things in life. One of them is abortion. Personally, I favor a person to have the right to an abortion. However, I personally don’t like the concept of abortion, and if it were me making the decision, would decide against it.
Sometimes I feel like people see Pro-Choice and think ‘Pro-Abortion’. I’m all for people having the right to make decisions for themselves, but I don’t think I should be obligated to agree with some of those decisions. Am I a hypocrite for thinking about this?
Everybody has their own beliefs and opinions about things. To me, to take away someone’s ability to choose something is sort of forcing your own belifs and opinions on them.
I put this in IMHO because I posted it with the intent of getting doper feedback, not to bring up a debate.
I think the thing is that NOBODY actually likes the concept of abortion, but some of us see it as a necessary and somewhat inevitable procedure when a woman is faced with an unexpected and unwanted pregnancy.
I don’t like the concept of having my breast removed either, but if it’s excision enhances my physical and mental well-being, then I’ll begrudgingly submit to having it removed.
I’m pro-choice but that doesn’t mean I specifically want abortions to be performed. I think you’ll have a hard time finding anyone who likes abortions in general. Everyone agrees that having to perform an abortion is something of a failure, and it would be a better world if no-one ever needed an abortion.
Nah, pro-choice is not the same as pro-abortion (I say that as a pro-lifer myself). However, I do think that pro-abortion people exist. My idea of pro-abortion: Parents who pressure a teenager to abort to “keep up appearances” for the family, men who pressure a girlfriend to abort because they don’t want to pay child support, population control extremists who think the more abortions, the better (not to say that all people who are concerned with overpopulation think that way). I tend to find it easier to believe an individual is genuinely pro-choice, not pro-abortion, when the individual acknowledges that such pro-abortion attitudes exist and speaks out against them.
The only one of these examples that I would agree is pro-abortion is the population control extremists, and I think even they would prefer it if no-one conceived at all, thus neatly eliminating the need for abortion.
I don’t think anyone sees abortion as a good, rather than a necessary evil.
The only “pro-abortion” group I can think of is the Chinese government. Most people DON’T support abortion. The real debate is whether a woman has the right to make the choice for herself or whether the government has the right to tell her she can’t.
As a pro-choicer, I find the expression “pro-abortion” to be offensive. As a wordsmith, I find it to be inaccurate.
With all due respect weirddave, you don’t know me, and you certainly don’t know what the “right choice” is for me. Or for anyone else who might read that bumper sticker.
Put me down in the “pro-choice, anti-abortion” camp (I’m also a bit of a population control extremist - we’re going to be making some damned hard choices soon, that are going to make abortion look like an easy one.) You can also put me down as “pro sex education and easily available birth control for EVERYONE.” Especially young people in grade school and high school.
Hey, I’m pretty sure he’s clear on that he would be using the sticker as propaganda. He has the right to tell us what he thinks is right for us, we have the right to look the other way.
You can be against abortion and still be pro-choice. All that you’re saying is that you don’t feel you have the right to decide for everyone.
If you have problems being labelled pro-choice just say that you are pro-life for yourself and pro-choice for everyone else and that you don’t feel you have the right to tell others what they should or shouldn’t do.
Count me into the pro-choice, but not pro-abortion camp. I can’t imagine ever making that choice myself, unless I were raped and became pregnant as a result.
My own personal struggle is with my pro-choice but anti-death penalty stance. I feel strongly about both, but on occasion feel conflicted with it. I don’t believe that anyone has the right to end someone else’s life, for any reason. This certainly conflicts with my pro-choice stance, but I also hate the thought of a government that restricts women’s freedom with respect to their personal health decisions.
I challange you to give me one situation, baring a threat to the mother’s health with the pregnancy and assuming a healthy fetus, where abortion is a preferable alternative.
I am stridently pro-choice, as ShadiRoxan said I don’t believe that I have the right to decide for anyone else, but abortion, again, excepting health issues, is never the optimal choice.
I’d disagree with that. For me, it’s a medical procedure, it may be a moral decision, but it is (and should remain) legally nuetral.
I do separate morality and legality.
But I am also in the pro-choice, anti-abortion camp.
Weirddave, given the numbers of children who don’t get adopted. Knowing, particularly, that if I were to need to give up a child, it has a low chance of being adopted (despite the health of the baby), and being generally aware of the horrors of the foster care system in this country - I don’t think it’s necessarily that simple.
I am phenomenally pro-choice. Of course, as a man, the merit of having an opinion one way or the other is of limited significance.
I don’t know if I’d characterize myself as “pro-abortion.” Certainly protection or abstinence are preferable. And in a perfect world, no healthy fetus would need to be aborted. And only mature, healthy, financially secure women would become become pregnant. All pregnancies would be intentional. And all fetuses would result in healthy babies. And no children would go unadopted.
But in the world I inhabit, I can certainly think of any number of instances in which I would suggest early stage abortion is a far preferable choice than birth - even to a healthy baby.
In fact, I have a hard time entertaining any serious argument AGAINST a first trimester abortion.
